I can see that you're still visiting this site, but you have ignored the questions I asked. So let's take them one at a time. Could you please fill us in on your denial of Glide Junkie's claim (see post #212 and post #284 above).
Brad (Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:48 pm) wrote:
I will start with glidejunkie. Yes, I do deny that I said what you posted.
If you are going to deny Glide Junkie's first-hand account, could you please tell us what you think was said? We don't need a long discourse. Just tell us everything that was said and how you think it differs from Glide Junkie's account.
Bob Kuczewski
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It's a downhill par 3 Astroboy overlooking the coast line. You know those arrogant golfers. Always wanting to look down at everthing .
The U.S. Open is the most important tournament played here in the U.S. It is played at different courses across the country. Torrey is usually not closed during any other PGA event held at Torrey. Since this is such an important tournament. I would think the PGA officials want know distractions interfearing with the tournament. That includes buzzing Tiger while he stands over his record breaking tournament putt.
That might be Stuart Appleby from your neck of the woods Astro. _________________ The sky is no longer the limit! Only our imaginations will be our limit!
That might be Stuart Appleby from your neck of the woods Astro.
Yeah it is, I came across the photo and with this thread in my mind just thought "looks like a better place to launch a HG than to hit a golf ball - at least from that camera angle".
I do know the US open is a big tournament - I was attempting sarcasm with the "a bit of a golf tournament" line. Sarcasm doesn't work sometimes if it's in writing. _________________ N.B. If there is an ad immediately below here, it is completely random and not associated with me, or endorsed by me, in any way whatsoever
I do know the US open is a big tournament - I was attempting sarcasm with the "a bit of a golf tournament" line. Sarcasm doesn't work sometimes if it's in writing.
Eh, it's still nothing more than guys hitting little balls with bent sticks - big whoop.
I do know the US open is a big tournament - I was attempting sarcasm with the "a bit of a golf tournament" line. Sarcasm doesn't work sometimes if it's in writing.
Eh, it's still nothing more than guys hitting little balls with bent sticks - big whoop.
Give the game a try FormerFF. See if your ego can handle it.
If you do give it an honest try. PM me with details.
People who excell at whatever it is they do, have my respect. People who excell at what they do and are humble have my full support and respect. I can't wait until the day where we have flying sites across the nation. And millions of people watching the best pilots in our sport. Do what they Do.
p.s. I know of a couple of arrogant pricks! I like to be the best at whatever it is I'm doing. I try not to become delusional of reality. Something hanggliding has taught me. _________________ The sky is no longer the limit! Only our imaginations will be our limit!
Give the game a try FormerFF. See if your ego can handle it.
If you do give it an honest try. PM me with details.
I'm just being uppity. I have played two rounds of golf in my life, one as part of a scramble, and one where I played the entire round. The first hole was over water, and I think I hit nine balls into the lake before I got one over it. I did manage to make par once. I hit the first ball down the fairway, the second one wound up on the top of a hill about fifty feet from the pin, which I then chipped into the hole.
Seriously, I have no doubt that there is some serious skill involved in golf. But for me, there are some things it lacks. Compare it to some other sports. It lacks the athleticism and grit of sports like tennis and crew. Compare it to say, bicycle racing, where guys get in a pack and ride together at 30 mph for six days out of seven for three weeks. Right now, I'm watching the 24 Hours of LeMans. I just saw a pack of six prototypes chasing each other down the Mulsanne. They'll be doing that for the next 23 hours, including in the dark and most likely in the rain. There's a sport.
I just don't see why they need to close the gliderport for the golf tournament.
Need something technical, physical, that keeps you in awesome shape, like....
This arm bar RULES
I wrestled starting when I was in elementary school through college. Well before ultimate fighting came to the scene. It's true, I was always in the best shape when I trainned. My friends and I would sit around, talking about who would kick whos butt. A boxer vs. a wrestler? Hands down the wrestler once he got a hold of the boxer. The Gracie family has proven grappling is a very effective method.
Golf is a different animal that requires good decisions , disciplined physical abillities and developed skills. Kind of like hanggliding. Golf is a mental endurance of repeated perfection of execution. Hanggliding is the same in regards to launches and landings. Between the to pursuits. I find launching and landing hanggliders way more forgiving. _________________ The sky is no longer the limit! Only our imaginations will be our limit!
I was browsing the web and I found a fragment of a letter that someone claims you sent to the San Diego City Council. It starts off with your introduction as a Regional Director of the USHPA. If you wrote that letter as our representative, could you please post the entire letter on this site for everyone to see? And if you didn't write such a letter, could you please state that as well?
Thanks in advance,
Bob Kuczewski
Letter Fragment - Posted around January 12, 2008 (uncorrected for spelling):
Kris? wrote:
Here's a letter from Brad Hall to the San Deigo city council regarding the appointment of Bob Kuczewski to the Torrey Pines Advisory Board:
Quote:
Hello Donna, I am a Regional Director of the United States Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association, a national organization that represents all pilots of both disciplines. I was informed this morning that a vote was taken and passed to appoint Mr. Kuczewski or one of the members of his club, the Torrey Hawks, to the advis
I just wanted to let everyone know that I sent you an email message on June 17th to let you know about my posting above so that you would have a chance to respond.
On June 17th, Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Brad (bcc to others),
I am sending you this email message to let you know that I've posted the following public request on HangGliding.org under the Torrey Hawks topic (post #310). I am also awaiting your response to post #301 on that same topic.
Thanks,
Bob Kuczewski
The text of the original posting (#310 above) was attached here
That was one week ago today. So this morning I sent the following message to you via email and sent copies to City Councilmember Donna Frye and to the USHPA Executive Committee and to other observers.
On June 24th, Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Brad Hall,
cc to Donna Frye,
cc to USHPA Executive Committee,
bcc to other observers,
I'm sorry to bother you, but I would like to extinguish any rumors before they get out of hand. I was browsing the Internet, and I found a snippet where someone named "Kris" claimed that you wrote a letter to the the San Diego City Council (possibly to Councilmember Donna Frye) regarding the Torrey Hawks and myself. Here is what Kris wrote:
Kris wrote:
Here's a letter from Brad Hall to the San Deigo city council regarding the appointment of Bob Kuczewski to the Torrey Pines Advisory Board:
Kris says Brad Hall wrote:
Hello Donna, I am a Regional Director of the United States Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association, a national organization that represents all pilots of both disciplines. I was informed this morning that a vote was taken and passed to appoint Mr. Kuczewski or one of the members of his club, the Torrey Hawks, to the advis
That's all the information that I currently have about the letter. Could you please let me know if you did or did not write such a letter? And if you did write it, could you please provide a public copy for everyone to see? If you did write such a letter as a USHPA Regional Director, then I think it would be important for all of our members to know about it. Please reply to all with your response so we will all have a first hand account of your position.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Bob Kuczewski
President - Torrey Hawks Hang Gliding Club
Brad, I would like to know if you wrote that letter to Councilmember Frye, and if you did, I would like to see that letter posted on this site for everyone to see.
Our club, the Torrey Hawks, deserves to know if our own USHPA Regional Director has worked to undermine our club's representation with the City of San Diego. Please tell us if you wrote that letter (see posts 310 and 311 above), and please disclose its contents if you did.
We are waiting...
Bob Kuczewski _________________ Bob Kuczewski: H4/P4 - Torrey Hawks, CSS, SHGA, E-Team, Soboba Soaring, Founding Member of the HGAA
Learn to fly hang gliders • Join the Torrey Hawks • Fly the Big O Loop!! "Hang Gliding must be represented by an organization that cannot survive without it" - gs
Brad Hall has not answered the questions posed regarding the letter to City Councilwoman Donna Frye (see posts 310, 311 and 313 above). So today (July 1st, 2008) at 10:58am I called Brad Hall and asked him directly if he sent that letter to Donna Frye
Brad responded with one sentence and then immediately hung up the phone:
Quote:
"Any letters that I send to anybody are none of your business."
The entire call lasted 47 seconds. I have not called back.
Is this the kind of respsonse that members of USHPA should be getting from their own Regional Director? If Brad wrote that letter, and he used his title as "Regional Director", then that makes it the business of every member of USHPA. We should demand to see how he has represented us in his writings to the City of San Diego regarding one of USHPA's own chapters and members.
Brad, I am calling on you to divulge whether or not you sent that letter, and if you did, then I am calling on you to post that letter to this forum.
Bob Kuczewski - July 1st, 2008 _________________ Bob Kuczewski: H4/P4 - Torrey Hawks, CSS, SHGA, E-Team, Soboba Soaring, Founding Member of the HGAA
Learn to fly hang gliders • Join the Torrey Hawks • Fly the Big O Loop!! "Hang Gliding must be represented by an organization that cannot survive without it" - gs
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Could you provide a link to where you saw this letter fragment?
The letter fragment itself doesn't really say anything incriminating. _________________ H4, Litespeed 4 w/ Mylar sail.
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If Brad sent the city a letter, and represented himself as a ushpa director, then I would demand transparency in the matter. Ushpa members should know how their RD is representing them to the city. _________________
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Thomas Jefferson wrote:
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
If Brad sent the city a letter, and represented himself as a ushpa director, then I would demand transparency in the matter. Ushpa members should know how their RD is representing them to the city.
that is the heart of the matter _________________ TSA, DHS, NDAA and SOPA Seig Heil!
Could you provide a link to where you saw this letter fragment?
I'm sorry, but I have reasons for not posting any more of the message at this time. I am simply asking Brad if he sent such a message, and if he would post it if he did.
The fact that he is unwilling to do so is an insult to everyone who he is supposed to represent. If he did not write such a letter, then he should simply state that he did not. If he did write such a letter using his title as USHPA Regional Director, then he should be honorable enough to post it here.
I agree with Jason who agrees with SG:
Jason wrote:
sg wrote:
If Brad sent the city a letter, and represented himself as a ushpa director, then I would demand transparency in the matter. Ushpa members should know how their RD is representing them to the city.
that is the heart of the matter
That is the heart of the matter. _________________ Bob Kuczewski: H4/P4 - Torrey Hawks, CSS, SHGA, E-Team, Soboba Soaring, Founding Member of the HGAA
Learn to fly hang gliders • Join the Torrey Hawks • Fly the Big O Loop!! "Hang Gliding must be represented by an organization that cannot survive without it" - gs
Wouldn't that letter be on file for public inspection? Were all one needs to do is go ask for a copy and thus have the proof in hand. Or ask the councilman/woman directly.....
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