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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: www.hanggliding.org... bringing motley types together. Reply with quote #1   
Andy Jackson Memorial fly-in... fun times, long flights. Lift everywhere.

I was putting my glider on my van when, according to my sister in law, my name was announced to come to the scoring table. Some guy named Greg (or is it Gary? Pesky beer) was looking for me. I shake his hand and pretend I know him long enough to ask his online moniker.

OMFGitwasRadwhacker! I'll leave the tales of the day to him, but he had a bummer day.

GTPowell was up flying circles around Dave and me... here's a pic of all of us:



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
Busy day at launch... there were about 4 gliders out of the field of view, too. The sky was dirty with wings... fun time.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
i got some pictures of the day as well and will get them posted soon. It was a great flying day (again Mr. Green )
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
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OMFGitwasRadwhacker! I'll leave the tales of the day to him, but he had a bummer day.


Yep, I've had better days...

I went to Elsinore in the morning to meet up with my buddy John Pitt and fly the "E". The plan was to fly from Elsinore to Crestline and drop in for the party.
Unfortunately, I dawdled around too long on launch and got blown down on. So I packed up, loaded my glider on a friend's truck and headed down to the Z.

At the Z I went to take my glider off the truck to transfer it to mine and head to Crestline. As soon as I untied it it rolled off the side of the rack and was headed for the side mirror. I grabbed for it, it jammed into my index finger and bent it backwards.

I looked at my finger and didn't like the angle it took from the knuckle outward - about 30 degrees or so.

I went over to the E-Teamers hanging out and said, "Look" and held up my hand. They all groaned and went running for their cameras.


Off to the emergency hospital.

Turned out to just be dislocated so the Doc gave me a shot and yanked - good as new.

So, no flying today, but at least I made it out to Crestline in time to meet Knumbknuts, DesignbyDave and GTPowell.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
Ooof. What a pic.

"Excuse me, where is the Emergency Room"

"Over there" (points)

"The planter?"

"No, over there!" (points)

"The fountain?"

"NO, OVER THERE!" (points)

"Dude, I have no idea what you are pointing at"
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
It's a good thing it was THAT finger. Other options might have been more embarrassing. Particularly, once all splinted and bandaged up. Rolling Eyes Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #7   
The pic doesn't really do it justice. Beside the bend to the right it also bent about the same angle towards the camera.

If it didn't hurt so bad it would have been worth it just for the gross out factor.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
What a day. Man I had a great time flying with you all today. John you’re awesome. I'm interested to know how long your flight was today? I guess near 3:45-hours. mosh

Rad, it was great to see you today. I wish I had more opportunity to talk with ya. Sorry you missed out on some great flying today. Cranking lift along the ridge. I counted over 16 gliders (and one- upset paraglider) in the air above launch at one point. The paraglider had appearently ridden the lift over the billboard up several hundred feet and then fell out. After over an hour and multiple collapses, he finally traveled the couple of hundred yards he needed to get back out front of the billboard. "That funny ROFL " I kept watching him and wondering why he was just hanging out where he was for so long. I had no idea he couldn’t penetrate to get back out front. I understand he was not a happy camper at the LZ. ahh

Dave, as always, great flying with you today. It’s very comforting to know you can trust the guys around you when it gets as crowded as it was. I look forward to seeing your pics from today. thumbsup

Rob, Dianne and others, “Thank-You” for your tremendous effort to make this fly-in as much fun as it was post flying. Food was great and so was the company. Thanks………!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #9   
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What a day. Man I had a great time flying with you all today. John you’re awesome. I'm interested to know how long your flight was today? I guess near 3:45-hours. mosh


3:13... my longest yet...

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The paraglider had appearently ridden the lift over the billboard up several hundred feet and then fell out. After over an hour and multiple collapses, he finally traveled the couple of hundred yards he needed to get back out front of the billboard. "That funny ROFL " I kept watching him and wondering why he was just hanging out where he was for so long. I had no idea he couldn’t penetrate to get back out front. I understand he was not a happy camper at the LZ. ahh


Comedy gold, I'd like to hear more about this. I saw that guy and thought the same thing, but didn't pay much attention to him. There was another pantie that plowed right through the middle of my thermal circle at billboard, the first good boomer I found. punch PGs have their place... and they should know it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
I too got my longest flight, 2hr 35min. Could have stayed up longer but the usual excuses came in: hungry, cold, tired etc... Muscling a big ol Falcon 1 un there in the 28mph or so winds was hard work.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
When you guys say Elsinore, are you talking about lake Elsinore in California?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #12   
All right, so I recognized Knumb Knut's ugly mug, and that guy infront of him was D by D, who is which on the right? Can't see the fingers.

You shoulda thrown a phone up at 'em, Radwhacker.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #13   
I'm in front with the grin after a great 3-hour flight and Radwacker's in the background. As with Dave, I could have stayed up another hour or so, but lost track of time and chose to land for other reasons.

With so many HG's in the air at once, and everybody chasing one-another’s lift when being out thermalled, was a great time. We were constantly watching over our shoulder's to avoid one-another, flying 30-40 feet over one another, and consistently giving way to each other when one of us was getting severely handled by a thermal. What a gas.....!!

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When you guys say Elsinore, are you talking about Lake Elsinore in California?


Yaw, Lake Ellsinore, CA "The E
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #14   
Gaggle flying, gotta love it. Congratz to all, except Rad I guess! Sounds like a good time!

I still have a weeks vacation, anyone have room and board, a wing ,and a week to go flying?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #15   
Great write-up KK! Excellent flights for both you and Dave by the sound of it!!!

Dave, I feel your pain about muscling falcons around. When I rented that Falcon from Rob, I got tired after only 20-30 minutes of it. Have you thought about getting a double surface? At the rate you're progressing, I'd say you're probably more than ready for it!

Rad, your comment about your friend groaning and running for their cameras was perfect!! ROFL
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #16   
Now that I think about it, that's the single biggest difference between a Falcon 1/2 and a Falcon 3 to me: maneuverability.

Mind you, I weigh 200 and I went from the Falcon 1 225 to the Falcon 3 195, so wing loading is a factor.

Nonetheless, my first flight on a 3 I was amazed at how much more responsive it was to roll inputs. Because the lightness of touch, it's harder to feel the flare point on landings, but it's still a Falcon and you are mostly like just to fly through it than flare too early or too fast.

I'm going to add "maneuverability" to "penetration" on the list of things I prefer about the 3 over the 1/2.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #17   
Nibs wrote:
Have you thought about getting a double surface? At the rate you're progressing, I'd say you're probably more than ready for it!


it seems Dave got a rather nice check in the mail the other day, so a new glider may be in the works...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #18   
Cool Dave! Send us a picture of that sport 2! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #19   
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Nibs wrote:
Have you thought about getting a double surface? At the rate you're progressing, I'd say you're probably more than ready for it!


it seems Dave got a rather nice check in the mail the other day, so a new glider may be in the works...


Gratz on getting the scholarly money and using on the practical application of aerodynamics!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #20   
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Cool Dave! Send us a picture of that sport 2! Mr. Green


not sure I can splurge for a crispy new one though, the car needs breaks,

and tires

and a transmission

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