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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Help!!! I need excuses Reply with quote #1   
Well, a couple hours ago I did something that I havent done in the 17 odd years i've been flying.......

Came in to land at lookout after a short flight in some funky air with strong south. Got a few turns in something a little ragged about 100 over, and then it fell apart and I commited to landing. Came in fast lined up right where I wanted to be, then I had nothing flared and couldn't even get my feet beneath me. pancaked in fairly gently and get up to discover I bent the left downtube.......


so........knowing that any bad landing comes with a plethora of excuses on how its not my fault, i need some........

also i need a new downtube cuss

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
"The wide angle lens on the GoPro just made the downtube look bent, it's actually quite straight" Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
I'm surprised you don't know it, but this forum includes an exhaustive list of landing excuses!
https://tinyurl.com/badlandingexcuses

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
You did not have your MAGA hat on, just a guess.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
That'll buff out...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Help!!! I need excuses Reply with quote #7   
Jason wrote:
....so........knowing that any bad landing comes with a plethora of excuses on how its not my fault, i need some.....

I had a great landing today after a turbulent and exhausting 2-1/2hr flight while sick. I can only assume that you and I did one of those Freaky Friday trading places thingys where our minds suddenly inhabit each other's bodies. There's your excuse. Don't say I never gave you anything but I do still owe you a bottle or porter from way, way back in your Garden Grove days. thumbsup

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
A good strong oak tree with plenty of Ys and some duct tape.

No excuses needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r80HF68KM8g
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #9   
good as new Shocked


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
Jason wrote:
good as new Shocked
Check the shear web inside. If it's not bent, buckled or kinked then I wouldn't worry about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
NMERider wrote:
Jason wrote:
good as new Shocked
Check the shear web inside. If it's not bent, buckled or kinked then I wouldn't worry about it.


the web is straight as can be, the exterior walls are dimpled with some crazying

it's going to rack improvements on my xterra, not something i want to have to worry about while wanging,

100$ for piece of mind on an 8k wing...i'll take the new tube
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #12   
done


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:24 pm    Post subject: Help!!! I need excuses Reply with quote #13   
Jason wrote:
good as new Shocked
Campers,

Any bets? Laughing

I recommend checking any tube for " straightness" by pointing it up at the sky, and looking straight through it, as if the tube was a telescope. It's much easier to see any deformity from being straight, with that trick. Point the tube at a bright cloud (NOT the Sun) to get a better look inside the tube.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #14   
The US flag at the baseball diamond is blowing briskly as you turn onto final (8:06), yet when you land there is virtually zero wind in the landing field.

Rotor stall.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #15   
I was watching porn on my phone Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Help!!! I need excuses Reply with quote #16   
red wrote:
Jason wrote:
good as new Shocked
Campers,

Any bets? Laughing

I recommend checking any tube for " straightness" by pointing it up at the sky, and looking straight through it, as if the tube was a telescope. It's much easier to see any deformity from being straight, with that trick. Point the tube at a bright cloud (NOT the Sun) to get a better look inside the tube.

Mr. Green


looking down the inside is key however with dimpled side walls i call it done



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #17   
push up not out. oh and jim rooney posted some great stuff on landing over at the OZ report. Check it out........
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #18   
Rcpilot wrote:
push up not out. oh and jim rooney posted some great stuff on landing over at the OZ report. Check it out........
There's no shame in wheels. good idea
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #19   
NMERider wrote:
Rcpilot wrote:
push up not out. oh and jim rooney posted some great stuff on landing over at the OZ report. Check it out........
There's no shame in wheels. good idea


Wheels are great for low-cut, smoother LZ's. Proper landing skills are paramount for out-landings in tall weeds, crops, brush, etc.
Links to Rcpilot's reference:
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28168&sid=ffd97368ce63bff01a2a96da79c0c437
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26379&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://www.hanggliding.org/wiki/How_to_land_a_hang_glider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjHqdmUAAFo

I really like Robert's landing prep style... and his austere landings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drs3LiaHLtg#t=252.663932
I am referring to Robert placing his right hand thumb down on the DT while on his initial approaches. This allows positive control with appropriate, damn-near-automatic airspeed increase. It also reduces workload while in ground effect and less chance of catching the rear wire rather than DT.


There are no good rough-field landing vids that I could find, but if there is a chance of landing out in a nasty field or worse, point landing skills are always preferred over sliding it in and busting things up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xytrjl1AeWY

That's my excuse! Razz
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