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Spark
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:43 pm    Post subject: an early end to my flying season Reply with quote #1   

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: landing Reply with quote #2   
Sounds like a torn rotor cuff, if it is thats 12 weeks but not the end.Just flaired to early,didn't bleed off the speed. Bad landings happen to all of us, just learn form it and get back in the air when you can.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
Hope you recover soon and get back in the air Spark!

It looks to me like you do the same thing I'm always getting crap from Michael for, and that is reaching forward with your feet. I'm trying to stop doing that, but it's a natural reaction, and hard to stop. Not only does it ruin your flare (when you reach forward, you weight shift forward), but it causes you to stop abruptly, while your wing keeps flying, usually resulting in a whack. Your wheels prevented the whack part.

Take care, heal up well!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
Rats Allen!! Double Rats!!
Hope you heal up ok buddy,

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: an early end to my flying season Reply with quote #5   
Spark,

I tore my rotator cuff, slipping on snow-covered ice one winter. That sounds like what you did.

If so, look for the best (most experienced) surgeon to do the repair work; it really makes a difference. You may have torn a tendon or two, besides. They can fix all that stuff in one procedure. In by 10 AM, out by 2 PM, not too bad. They can do much of the work internally by remote operators, so you won't be sliced up, as in the past. This surgery is so bloodless, they probably won't give you any, but you can donate your own blood first, if needed. Getting your own blood back really cuts down on any possible transmission of blood-borne diseases.

You'll get Physical Therapy afterward, which is about half of the process. If you skip that stuff, you can just hang it up. Do the P.T. and you will come back stronger than before. Start your recovery movements in a warm-water pool (the hospital will know where), because you will need that support to get things going again, at first. Without the warm water, I can tell you, you will not move the arm enough to help yourself, and recovery would take far longer.

Hang tough. You won't fix it by exercise, now, but it can all get fixed. You'll get a sling, maybe with an airbag under the arm (that is 'way better than the old cast process). Diet supplements can help the healing. When it all heals again, then, the exercises (P,T,) will do the rest.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
I'm really sorry about this Allen. It was rather sickening to watch your left arm appear to nearly get torn out of the socket. Do you know why you held on like that as you swung through? I wish you well in your forthcoming rehab.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #7   
What was the wind direction in the LZ? It looks as if it may have been a slight tail wind (due to the dust you kicked up). Only critique I can add besides not landing downwind ..... is pushing up instead of out on the DTs.
Hey, I feel for you! I whacked each of mine on a couple of occasions. HItting a tree skiing and trying to pull a tarp off of frozen ground. Neither seemed all that bad so I never had them looked at. But, one took a good 12 months to feel/act 100% again. Hope yours heals up more quickly!

Wheels - When I bought my Sport 2 (used) it came with wheels. They came in pretty handy on a landing I made very similar to yours and I luckily rolled to a stop. But, the wheels were very annoying getting ready to launch and on setup (I didn't think to make a lock for them). So ... I got rid of them. I found that my landings improved right away. Guess the thought that I didn't have a backup anymore made for increased motivation and concentration on landing speed and flare timing/execution. ...... Now, maybe if I don't wear a helmet anymore I'll start using my head! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
Crap Spark ! i was hoping you woud be coming to fly the Crawfords with the Colorado pilots,

i agree with Chattaroyman, looks like you landed Tail, as your good friend Jason stated your airspeed determines when to flare, your ground speed determines how hard

though your ground speed was fast, your airspeed was not, when you come in tail we have a tendancy to think that our airspeed is fine because we are moving across the ground so fast

it is a sick feeling when you see the ground go by so fast and your airspeed is slower than your ground speed, this is when you speed up more into ground affect flare with everything you got a little earlier than you woule expect

get well soon i made the same mistake, thought i ripped both shoulders but they felt fine in the morning

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #9   
Dont beat yourself up.....you can live and learn from it.....Hope you have a good and full recovery.
Try a book called
Breathwork by saraswati ambikananda if I remember right.
It really paints a good usable picture on how to help you heal making the most of breathing. Any good physio will emphasise how important breathing is whilst going thru the exercises.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
Oh man, that looked painful. I'm really sorry for you Spark. I hope you heal and get back in the air quickly.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
Darn, Sparky,
Always hate to see a friend do damage. Really sorry it went down like that.
Hoping for a speedy and solid recover for you.

Best wishes from all your east coast Capitol buds.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #12   
Not again! Aw Sparky, man I hate that for you. What a sh!tty way to close the season. Damn. cuss cuss cuss
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #13   
Sorry ya got injured, as far as constructive critique, I've been doing the same thing with my moyes, so I can't say much, except we both need to go back to the training hill and spend a few days.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #14   
Aw Spark, that sucks!
Heal fast my friend.
Come fly with us in Utah next spring.

Blue Skies,

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #15   
Ditto to all the good wishes above.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Heal quickly Reply with quote #16   
Sorry to see that one Sparky... Heal fast


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #17   
Very sorry to hear about this Spark! I tore my shoulder up in a half pipe years ago and it got so bad it would come out of the socket while I was sleeping. Believe me, that is a BAD way to wake up. Get a good doctor and get it taken care of without delay. Mine was way worse than it needed to be, because I didn't take care of it.

Heal quickly Brother.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #18   
Heal quick........whats the damage?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #19   
I removed the video.

Thanks for the comments.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #20   
Dang it Sparks!

Heal well and heal fast.

That was a little brutal to watch.

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