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Marvin
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 Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: Can a WW F1/2 be updated? |
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Hi guys
I'm shopping around and doing some research on gliders and my question to you is, can a WW F1/2 be moded or updated with F3 features such as a nose cone or anything else to add performance?
I also heard that some advanced guys prefer the WW F1/2 over the F3 because it aerotows better, glides better etc... How do you guys feel about this?
As always thank you, your knowledge is appreciated |
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AIRTHUG
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Negative. Changes were incremental, but each one is an entirely different glider.
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| I also heard that some advanced guys prefer the WW F1/2 over the F3 because it aerotows better, glides better etc... How do you guys feel about this? |
The 3 glides better than the 2, which glides better than the 1. The 4 is better than them all (and I hear it tows much easier than the 3).
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Marvin
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Negative. Changes were incremental, but each one is an entirely different glider.
| Marvin wrote: |
| I also heard that some advanced guys prefer the WW F1/2 over the F3 because it aerotows better, glides better etc... How do you guys feel about this? |
The 3 glides better than the 2, which glides better than the 1. The 4 is better than them all (and I hear it tows much easier than the 3). |
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J Fritsche
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've flown Falcon 1s, 2s, and 3s. They're all great. The handling has felt about the same on all of them--move your eyeballs in the direction you want to go, and the glider turns. Performance has gotten better with each generation, but there's PLENTY of fun to be had on a 1 if you can find one in decent condition. I've only ever aerotowed a 1; it was incredibly easy. It's all a matter of what's available at what price.
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Manta_Dreaming
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Can a WW F1/2 be updated? |
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| Marvin wrote: |
Hi guys
I'm shopping around and doing some research on gliders and my question to you is, can a WW F1/2 be moded or updated with F3 features such as a nose cone or anything else to add performance?
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Sure. You can gain performance by making mods to the pilot's skills and experience.
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ChattaroyMan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I wanted to get a new sail for my Falcon 1 225 (which I've since sold). The sail was OK but I was thinking of a new custom sail. I inquired at WW about getting a new sail and was told that they only make sails for current production models. So, if you wanted to at least get a new sail for a F1/2 - WW won't do that. I believe their policy on this is primarily due to making so many new gliders they just don't have the time to be making sails for older designs.
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Marvin
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| I wanted to get a new sail for my Falcon 1 225 (which I've since sold). The sail was OK but I was thinking of a new custom sail. I inquired at WW about getting a new sail and was told that they only make sails for current production models. So, if you wanted to at least get a new sail for a F1/2 - WW won't do that. I believe their policy on this is primarily due to making so many new gliders they just don't have the time to be making sails for older designs. |
 wow that really that sucks, but good to know. I found a F1 for sale but with this new info, depending on how many hours Left on the sail, that's it Gargage!, $2000 for like 20 to 80 hours ish?? Hmmmm...  |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: |
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You could probably add a nose cone if you wanted. I doubt it would do any harm. Probably wouldn't do a lot of good, either.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Adding a nose cone is easy if you have sewing skillz. Filling the hole around the kingpost with a neoprene "grommet" is also beneficial, but the advantages are pretty small...
Add attack DT's and a clean harness and together it adds up to maybe a point on glide. It'd trivial pursuit but I like trivia!
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Marvin
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| blindrodie wrote: |
Adding a nose cone is easy if you have sewing skillz. Filling the hole around the kingpost with a neoprene "grommet" is also beneficial, but the advantages are pretty small...
Add attack DT's and a clean harness and together it adds up to maybe a point on glide. It'd trivial pursuit but I like trivia!
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Hmmmm interesting, thanks |
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Manta_Dreaming
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| You could probably add a nose cone if you wanted. I doubt it would do any harm. Probably wouldn't do a lot of good, either. |
It'll help keep the dirt and vegetation out of the nose plate area when you whack .
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