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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:20 am    Post subject: Prometheus, the movie Reply with quote #1   
I figured I'd make a thread on it.

In my humble opinion, this movie was a steaming pile of dung, with an utterly ridiculous and incoherent plot.

It figures it comes from the writer of Lost, I hear that shows plot was incoherent as well. Somehow the writer has managed to get people to think he's good, when he just strings together random crap that doesn't make sense, as long as he sprinkels random religious allusions in there.

Prometheus should have flopped
Ridley Scott did not sell a good movie, he sold his reputation and the reputation of the "Alien" franchise.
Now that its gone, I predict their planned sequel will flop.

I can elaborate on why it sucks if anyone is interested.
Also, inexplicably, some people liked it, if any of them are on this site, I'd like to know why.
So far from other internet forums, all I get is "well you just didn't understand it" even though they can't (and make no attempt to) explain what it is that I didn't get that could possibly salvage that turd of a plot.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
i must admit, it was a bit absurd. I still have no idea why it was necessary that that robot bloke spiked the blokes drink in order to get that woman pregnant. It was never explained, and didnt really seem to fit in with the film (other than the sigourney weaver reference in the earlier films).

The relation between the other films is a bit vague too.. almost like they thought 'this'll do' when coming up with the plot.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
my new outlook on movies is to play the opposite of what EVERYBODY does and find the things I like about the movie.
I got this new fresh attitude towards movies after Star Wars episode 1, EVERYBODY hated Jar Jar Binks, I actually liked Jar Jar. so I came up with the term to "Jar Jar a movie" which means to only say the things that you don't like about a movie.
So, I now find MOST people "Jar Jar" movies.. I partially blame this phenomenon on our media by over hyping movies, with good intentions--to make money--
Anyways back to the movie..
I liked the first half of the film. I liked the cinematography, I liked the sound effects. I liked the alien in the belly scene, I liked the very end with the Alien..that was all.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
Great cinematography ... Horrible story ! How does this story get made into a movie ???
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
My guess is Lindelof gets Ridley Scott wasted, or blackmails him in some way to get him to push his crappy script.
Then Scott goes to the execs and says "I'm Ridley Scott, I made Alien muthaf-kers,", and the execs green light the project without reading the script

IMO, Lindelof is a hack, the only work that comes from him that I know of is pretentious crap.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
f***!! I hate Mexicans!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #7   
I saw a trailer for this, and it looked like it might be at least vaguely related to the Alien movies, so I netflixed Alien Resurrection, which I hadn't seen, figuring I should be up to speed before seeing Prometheus. And after watching the Alien movie, I thought, "I don't even like this kind of movie, why am I wasting my time on it?". So the next movie I have coming from Netflix is a zany comedy from 1949 starring Alec Guinness. Should be much better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
Alien, when it first came out, was damn good - saw it in a dark + dang near empty theater and it practically scared the sheet out of me! Prometheus is just a poor Alien remake missing the drama/acting of the original Alien.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Boon Dock Saints Reply with quote #9   
You want to see a great movie, rent "Boondock Saints".When you are finished with that, if you can find it, rent the documentary about making the movie. I think it's called "Overnight".
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
ChattaroyMan wrote:
Alien, when it first came out, was damn good - saw it in a dark + dang near empty theater and it practically scared the sheet out of me! Prometheus is just a poor Alien remake missing the drama/acting of the original Alien.

When I first saw "Alien" in the cinema, when the alien popped out of John Hurt, everyone went, "Eeek!" but then when it shot off, everyone laughed because it looked so silly.
Then it just descended into pantomime with, "it's behind you!" every few minutes.

Of course, logic spoils all of these movies. Alien on board your starship? Answer: Put on space suit and vent the atmosphere. D'oh.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
I saw this summary on another site:

Quote:

CAPTAIN
"Hey, we've got a lifeform moving towards you - see you in the morning, I'm off to **** Oscar winning actress Charlize Theron"

RED-SHIRT
"Wait! What?!?"

CAPTAIN
"It's gone now, 'probably' just a glitch, nite!"

RED-SHIRT
"Hey, maybe you should confirm that, seeing how we are on a desolate remote planet that has no breathable atmosphere"

CAPTAIN
"Nah, I'm just going to assume everything will be okay in the morning, which goes completely against my character traits as later on, on the basis of what one person says and with no evidence, I'm going to slam this ship into another ship killing everyone on board"

RED-SHIRT
"What?"

CAPTAIN
"Wrap up warm gentlemen, hahaha!"
(off screen)
"Hey! Git yo boney white ass into my cabin"


Regarding the spacesuit and vent into space: a large ship like that may not be able to vent its interior due to many safe guards.
Also, that alien seemed to survive pretty well in a vacuum

Aliens: fusion doesn't work that way, neither do fission reactors - of course, it was just a plot device to disarm the marines to allow a more plausible slaughter of the marine force, while still allowing the survivors to kick ass later.

Prometheus: uh... nothing works that way?
Ancient aliens - just believe it
Complete lack of precaution to prevent contaminations - uhhhh?
Intelligent design by aliens - umm... wtf... ok?
Black goo that never has the same effect twice: uhhhhhh?
Aliens that are actually big blue humans (litterally), oh come on!
Big blue humans that visit many times over thousands of years telling us to go there, but then get tired one day, and decide to go to earth, but then get infected by their non-airborne liquid in sealed containers in a room that seals itself airtight....

Then small humans do come, and the big blue ones make no attempt to get the small ones to carry the infection abck to earth, and choose that moment while the small humans have a bigass spaceship at point blank range (which the big blue guys have no intel about), rather than after the small humans leave.


Then theres a lot to nitpick (this is just one of many examples):
They intially say the atmosphere has ≈ 20% oxygen and ≈75% nitrogen, like Earth.
-ie breathable, until one points out the 3% CO2 (note: in reality, 3% CO2 is jsut fine to breath) -> so its not the lack of oxygen, but rather the presence of a (supposedly) poisonous gas.
Then they get in the structure, and basically say: "Hey, I'm reading oxygen the air is OK to breath, I'm taking off my helmet, f*** the microbes that are almost certainly present"

Could they at least have consistency with their previous scene, and say they were reading decreased CO2 (I think they meant to say CO, carbon MONoxide, which by the way is not stable in an oxygenated atmosphere, so that would be BS too).

There was no effort put into the movie to have the contents of one scene be coherent with the contents of the previous scene.
It was a mismash of incoherent scenes with religious references sprinkled throughout.

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