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Cal Glider
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 Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: Northwing Freedom…VG ineffective? |
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I was out at Crestline several months back and I was talking to two pilots (both are NorthWing dealers). I have to step down from my blade wing  and I am looking at a Freedom 170 as a possible next wing. Both made the same statement that the VG on the Freedom was not worth getting. One of them said that the only difference that he could see was that with VG full, the handling of the wing became stiff, but he saw no improvement to the glide of the wing. Any freedom pilots have anything to say? Is this what you have found to be the case? Or do you disagree and believe that the VG option is worth it?
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lostgriz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I don't have the VG on mine, but there is definitely a difference between the three settings on the haul back, so I would assume the same of the VG. It isn't anything like the difference with my U2 when I pull the VG on full of course. I will get it on my next Freedom. What is the cost to add VG?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Don't know about the effectiveness on glide but I do want it just for the ability to change handling for thermic conditions etc.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't. The VG doesn't improve the handling. It is still way too hard to pull in after pulling on the VG.
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Wagner24314
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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get a S2
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Fly a Freedom if you haven't yet, they are Awesome!
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lostgriz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Fly a Freedom if you haven't yet, they are Awesome!
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NMERider
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Northwing Freedom…VG ineffective? |
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| ...Or do you disagree and believe that the VG option is worth it? |
I owned a Freedom 170 and it was a great SS glider and I only flew it in the tight setting and it handled the same as my Falcon 3 195 but w/ a little bit more speed and glide. Why not consider a Sport 2? I owned one of these and it will turn just as tight and the VG is actually effective on the Sport 2. Mine weighed less than my Freedom and had much better penetration. I do feel the Freedom had easier handling in case you are suffering from weaknesses in the muscles, joints, ligaments, etc. I'm no Spring chicken myself and am enjoying what I consider to be my last few years on a topless glider before I throttle back to my Falcon and then rocking chair. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| davisstraub wrote: |
| It doesn't. The VG doesn't improve the handling. It is still way too hard to pull in after pulling on the VG. |
But does it roll any easier with the VG off?
I would think the looser sail would ease the handling. (turning) I don't find the bar pressure an issue. |
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