Is the Hook / loop part, (or abrasive), part of the Velcro sewn onto the covert harness?
If so good.
If not, this would be a good idea. The hook part of Velcro lasts much longer. So it is best if that is sewn onto the harness I'm about to order.
And the Fuzzy part of the Velcro sewed onto the easily replaceable zipper itself. Thanks anyone who knows about this.
I blow up zippers all the time. So the easily replaceable Velcro zipper option is a good reason to go with a Covert.
What other points make the Covert a good choice? Getting up-right easily for great landing? The back-plate?
Thanks.
Stan.
Matrix zipper is sewn in. (FYI, no issues with my zipper)
Guess that will narrow it down?
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> Is the Hook / loop part part of the Velcro sewn onto the covert harness?
The zipper has the hook, and the harness has fuzzy. Either way it doesn't matter. Velcro wears with use, but this part is not used more then a few times ever (zipper replacement), so the velcro will last the life of the harness easily. It's clear jeff/WW have put a lot of careful thought into this harness.
> Getting up-right easily for great landing? The back-plate?
No problem getting upright enough for landing, and the backplate is solid.
Covert, Matrix, Tenax are all good XC/race harnesses. It comes down to fit, and what mechanism you like (rope-slider, butt lever, etc). The Covert is an excellent harness. It's all good, and the only minor issues I can think of:
1. Tail is long and takes abuse. It's 1' longer than my Tenax. It collects everything inside (burrs, grass, dirt, etc). (Note NME holds his up) Not a big deal, just requires shaking out more. The price you pay for aero maybe.
2. The zipper can be hard to initiate; I find I have to zip it partially to make it easy to zip after launch.
3. I do have one real issue, and I think it is just me - I'm having trouble holding harness pitch stable. In thermals if they are rough the harness pitch releases some and my head rocks up. I have not heard others with this problem and can't figure out why I'm having it. It must come down to setting the rope tensioner and butt lever being set right, but I have not found a combo that works well enough yet.
I'm writing up a review of the Covert, watch for it in the USHPA mag in a month or two
I flew it another 80 miles today
Oh, thanks Ryan,....
All right. you've got the XC bug now! awesome. Now you can relate to why Dave and I back in Ellenville were always going somewhere every chance we got.
I'll look forward to your article. By that time though, I'll probably have already ordered this harness. _________________ Stan J. Roberts
> Is the Hook / loop part part of the Velcro sewn onto the covert harness?
The zipper has the hook, and the harness has fuzzy. Either way it doesn't matter. Velcro wears with use, but this part is not used more then a few times ever (zipper replacement), so the velcro will last the life of the harness easily. It's clear jeff/WW have put a lot of careful thought into this harness.
> Getting up-right easily for great landing? The back-plate?
No problem getting upright enough for landing, and the backplate is solid.
Covert, Matrix, Tenax are all good XC/race harnesses. It comes down to fit, and what mechanism you like (rope-slider, butt lever, etc). The Covert is an excellent harness. It's all good, and the only minor issues I can think of:
1. Tail is long and takes abuse. It's 1' longer than my Tenax. It collects everything inside (burrs, grass, dirt, etc). (Note NME holds his up) Not a big deal, just requires shaking out more. The price you pay for aero maybe.
2. The zipper can be hard to initiate; I find I have to zip it partially to make it easy to zip after launch.
3. I do have one real issue, and I think it is just me - I'm having trouble holding harness pitch stable. In thermals if they are rough the harness pitch releases some and my head rocks up. I have not heard others with this problem and can't figure out why I'm having it. It must come down to setting the rope tensioner and butt lever being set right, but I have not found a combo that works well enough yet.
GP
Thank you GP,
Very helpful comments. By the time I get my Covert, you will have these issues figured out. Wish I had mine now, and then I could see if I have these same characteristics and be a little helpful.
I do know of a similar issue on my old Rotor with my head popping up, or not being able to fully extend horizontal, or head down. All I needed to do was adjust the strings that attach to the boot and the hang strap, where it connects on the slider bar. I don’t know, yet, if the Covert had the same adjustment. _________________ Stan J. Roberts
3. I do have one real issue, and I think it is just me - I'm having trouble holding harness pitch stable. In thermals if they are rough the harness pitch releases some and my head rocks up. I have not heard others with this problem and can't figure out why I'm having it. It must come down to setting the rope tensioner and butt lever being set right, but I have not found a combo that works well enough yet.
GP
I had this problem when I first started flying my Rotor. It took a few flights to figure out that my wallet was hitting the butt lever. Once I
took it out of my pocket......no more issue. _________________ First Flight 1979 H4 , Cirrus 3, UP Mosquito, Delta Wing Streak, Moyes XS, Exxtacy 160, Rotor Vulto, MILLENNIUM #8
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It took a few flights to figure out that my wallet was hitting the butt lever. Once I took it out of my pocket......no more issue.
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it did not take long for me to figure out i would have no need for a wallet if i purchased one _________________ Explore nature from the eyes of an Eagle
It took a few flights to figure out that my wallet was hitting the butt lever. Once I took it out of my pocket......no more issue.
Classic!
it did not take long for me to figure out i would have no need for a wallet if i purchased one
I like to have a place for business cards, but my wallet isn't fat enough to hit the lever even if I borrowed one. _________________ Airborne Climax 14 (C1)
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I have a thin wallet unfortunately! Anyway, I think the problem is mine (not the harness), as I had added a 3/4" extension to the butt trigger, and that was probably a mistake, and I made the pitch too twitchy. I should have left it as is. I mentioned a few small things that I've learn to deal with, but I didn't mention the 100 great things about the covert. To be clear, I give the harness an "A" grade, and with jeff's support, it bumps it to an A+. It gets more and more comfortable each time I fly it. It is awesome for xc/speed.
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You should consider the CG-1000 also. More then half the price of the covert, about one-twelfth the wait time, and the hook side of the Velcro is sewn to the harness. Check out my website: flycenterofgravity.com
You should consider the CG-1000 also. More then half the price of the covert, about one-twelfth the wait time, and the hook side of the Velcro is sewn to the harness. Check out my website: flycenterofgravity.com
I really like mine & submitted an article in HGPG magazine about the "New CG-1000". August or September issue.
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it did not take long for me to figure out i would have no need for a wallet if i purchased one
