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CHassan 3 thumbs up


Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 4594 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:17 am Post subject: Racked my ride. |
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New car means new rack. OK not always as sometimes you can take a rack and move it to the new vehicle, but my PVC on the hood wasn't going to happen on this one.
I started with looking around at racks and seeing what others have done. Ended up wanting to go with a local's set up. Easy and simple, but sturdy. So I fired up Google Sketchup and went to work. Soon I had a simple rack, but then I added more, and more, and more, until it looked like the start of the Eiffel Tower.
I don't weld, so I took my material to a couple guys who have both built their Highlanders and both won Grand Champion at Oshkosh for their efforts.
SO we ended up going with their idea, that was close to my original, but with a different attachment. They also didn't like my thinner wall metal so we dug the scrap pile and found heavier wall stuff.
We drilled some holes in 2" angle iron to bolt to the bumper. A 1 1/4" sqr tube would be the receiver for the rack. (All that x2)
We cut a hole in the plastic grill, just big enough to let the receiver poke out. It stuck out just far enough to drill and pin the whole thing. (You might notice I went fancy with the paint. Used black metallic that almost comes close to matching my car's paint, and you might be able to tell that if the car was remotely clean.)
The rack is a pretty simple goal post, with a 2" angle iron top surface. I know it will support 210lbs bouncing on the lower cross member. It has almost no lateral sway, and just a hint of for and aft play. One well crafted piece of hardware there!
All I need to do now if figure out how I'm going to pad them. I'm thinking about custom forming my own foam moldings. One reason is my car's factory racks slope rearward, so I had to make shift a riser for the back. (used part of my old suction cup roof rack) If I can form my own one pieces molded padding, then I can do away with this contraption. (that looks better in this photo than in real life.)
I ended up spending about $30 on material, and now have a rather large outstanding favor for the labor. I'm thinking if I can get the molding foam thing down I might be able to repay some of that in Highlander comfort products.
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knumbknuts 3 thumbs up


Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 5004 Location: Carlsbad, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Nice,
I am looking into an econowagon of some sort. I spent $10K on gas last year. I'll be Borging this.
Thanks for posting
JW
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flybop 3 thumbs up


Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 647 Location: Livingston, Montana
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Nice rack. Like you I am doing away with my suction cup/pvc contraption. I drop my Jeep off tomorrow to get the rack. The local welder has made racks for a couple other pilots, so he knows what I am looking for.
It will be nice to show up with a rig that can carry more than two wings safely to launch. I'll post some pics when I have the rack installed.
Also, one thing that I want to do better with this new rack, and my factory roof racks, is the padding.
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NMERider 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Great job Craig!
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CHassan 3 thumbs up


Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 4594 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| flybop wrote: |
Also, one thing that I want to do better with this new rack, and my factory roof racks, is the padding. |
That is another big concern of mine. On my PVC rack I used water pipe insulation. It held up great, and I never damaged my gliders, but it looked like something you would see on the Red Green show. Yes I duct taped the foam to the PVC!
I think I have found the material to use, just waiting on a response from the supplier to make sure. I'll start on a positive for my mold this afternoon.
_________________ Airborne Climax 14 (C1)
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AT, FL,ST, RLF, TUR.
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flybop 3 thumbs up


Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 647 Location: Livingston, Montana
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Keep me posted Craig. My old pool noodles worked, but they looked a little Jed Clampet.
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slimchance 3 thumbs up


Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 817 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| My old pool noodles worked, but they looked a little Jed Clampet. |
Wrap the pool noodles in 10mil tape then it will look more like Bob Vila!!!
plus it keeps the sundamage down
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Skyhighwoman 3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 2185 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I will be looking to rack my ride.
The last time I used 3/4 inch closed foam and it worked great. I bought it at a place where they sell foam in the bay area. Last a long time 10yrs on the current truck. Taped thick black tape. It could use some new tape.
Now I bought a new to me truck. So now i have to pad and cover this rack. This time beside padding I will cover with marine vinyl to make it last and it looks good.
Just wondering if the pool noodles hold up if you cover them. Or do they wear out in time?
Carm
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slimchance 3 thumbs up


Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 817 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Skyhighwoman wrote: |
I will be looking to rack my ride.
The last time I used 3/4 inch closed foam and it worked great. I bought it at a place where they sell foam in the bay area. Last a long time 10yrs on the current truck. Taped thick black tape. It could use some new tape.
Now I bought a new to me truck. So now i have to pad and cover this rack. This time beside padding I will cover with marine vinyl to make it last and it looks good.
Just wondering if the pool noodles hold up if you cover them. Or do they wear out in time?
Carm |
With the 10mil tape it holds up pretty well so far. 2yrs and still feels new.IMO
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flybop 3 thumbs up


Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 647 Location: Livingston, Montana
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Slim. The tape option was one way I was considering. Now that it was mentioned, I did see a nice looking rack last year that had the marine vinyl covering the foam.
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wmstroud 3 thumbs up


Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 116 Location: Arlington, Tenessee
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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One of the absolute best rack padding material I have found (I have a fragile rigid) is water ski belt material. You remember the old ski belts your Mom and Dad use to use. They are about 7 inches wide, made of foam, and coated in flexable rubber. They are still available as new. These are mounted on synthetic deck boards for a wide surface area. Absolutely the gentlest ride your glider can have. Mine are now 3 years old and show no sign of deteriation.
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CHassan 3 thumbs up


Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 4594 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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So I changed my "padding plans" about 2 dozen times. Finally settled on expanding foam skinned in marine vinyl. Making 2 sets of pads, each 1/2 the length of the crossbars. The front rack will be a single piece molded across the full length.
I ended up not doing the air foiled route since I skinned the foam. It would have been that much harder and my sewing skill are minimal.
Sewed up the vinyl into a rectangle. I left the bottom where the pad will sit on the rack open for the foam. placed it into my mold and mixed up the foam. Once the foam was poured I clamped a lid on the box and let it grow.
About 20 minutes later I pulled it off, trimmed it up, and sewed on the zipper.
Fits like a glove, but I may switch to velcro instead of the zipper. The back pad is easy to install, but the front pad and the lower crossbar is a bit of a pain.
Spent $60 in the foam, and $20 on the vinyl. I bought 2 yards as I planned on needing extra for the normal re-do's.
Because I did the first pad when it was cool out, the foam didn't expand much. That pad is fairly hard and took 2 castings since it left a pretty big void in the mold.
The bigger pad I preheated the mold with my heat gun, plus it was warmer out. The pad is about "perfect" in softness and rigidity and filled nicely with one cast.
I need more foam, but I think I will try the hobby stores $20 mix. It is a lighter foam, but I think it should do with some back pressure in the mold.
_________________ Airborne Climax 14 (C1)
WW U2
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AT, FL,ST, RLF, TUR.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. … Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the difficulties. ~~~Douglas Adams |
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bentupright 3 thumbs up


Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 299 Location: Central CA
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: I pad too |
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Good job!
The ski belt idea is a great tip too. Thank you.
Searches turn up this vendor:
http://www.kidstoychest.com/tex/water-ski-belts.htm
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