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deltaman 1 thumbs up

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blindrodie 3 thumbs up

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Anything to keep the hands on the CB!!
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dievhart 2 thumbs up


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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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I want a remote barrel, that looks simple enough...how much?
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flyin_canuck 2 thumbs up


Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 404
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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what happens when that pulley breaks with that thing in your mouth
I still can not understand, if you get to the point its gone real bad and you need to release, what you need both hands on the control bar for
The control of these things is weight shift....if you are locked out it means weight shift doesn't work any more |
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Zack 3 thumbs up

Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| flyin_canuck wrote: |
| The control of these things is weight shift....if you are locked out it means weight shift doesn't work any more |
It doesn't mean weight shift doesn't work any more...it means it's inadequate to recover. As long as your weight shift is opposing the lockout, it's still helping. Take a hand off the bar while you're fighting a lockout and your attitude will immediately worsen. At altitude this won't matter, but near the ground it could be a big deal.
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Zack 3 thumbs up

Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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And if you're just approaching a lockout, taking a hand off the bar could be the very thing that puts you into a lockout.
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Mavi Gogun 1 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 973 Location: Istanbul (not Constantinople)
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| The benefit is only limited by your imagination: you're on tow, when the tug gives you the rope just as you are clearing the tree line by a few meters- what you really want to do is ditch the rope and fly the glider- if you have to take hands off the control bar at such critical moments, you trade one for the other... |
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pud 3 thumbs up


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 294 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Please, if you don’t like the string in teeth idea that’s fine but to dismiss the notion that flying with one hand is no big deal in a critical situation is nonsense.
It’s easy to test, just fly fast and open and close you mouth, nothing much happens. Try the same experiment, but this time let go with one hand at the same time, a momentary loss of control.
Still nothing much happens of course, except if you find yourself experiencing some other momentary loss of control at the same time.
As for the comment…
‘what happens when that pulley breaks with that thing in your mouth’.
This is critical of course and a very valid point, certainly on top of my list of ‘things that might go wrong’ along with a buckled cross-tube a snapped hang loop and inexplicably poor denture cement.
The solution, fortunately, is a simple one. Only use the commonly found stuff that will take the weight of five fat people and not sh** rig equipment made from parts of an old toy, a box of matchers and a Parker ball point pen.
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Hangskier 3 thumbs up


Joined: 10 Jan 2011 Posts: 852 Location: Eastern NC, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Looking at the video, the pilot can see the release in his peripheral vision. Several barrel release are made in various lengths. I chose the longer barrel release due to it is well in my peripheral vision. Yes, I have to let go with a hand to release, but I also have 2 barrel releasees so I can use either hand.
I'm not nocking the mouth release, but I won't to point out a couple things. The mouth release is not for me with a full face helmet and maybe someday going with a visor. I also surface tow as well as aero tow and even though I use different releases, I still use the same hand and the release lanyard is located only inches from each. Plus; I would not be able to yell, "damn this is going to hurt" if I got into a bad situation. _________________ Aspiring Pilot for LIfe and Focused
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deltaman 1 thumbs up

Joined: 24 Feb 2010 Posts: 43
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Hangskier,
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| Yes, I have to let go with a hand to release, but I also have 2 barrel releasees so I can use either hand. |
So we return to square one ?..Have you noticed the futility of using hands here?. Keep your hands on the controlbar.
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| The mouth release is not for me with a full face helmet and maybe someday going with a visor. |
Chin guard is not an issue. Your eyes shouldn't quit the tug.
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| I would not be able to yell, "damn this is going to hurt" if I got into a bad situation. |
good news ! Indeed, you would have release a long time ago.. |
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aqua 3 thumbs up


Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 189 Location: bc
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I've wondered about the same idea, but with a link knife..
looks good! |
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