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Erik Boehm 2 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 2430 Location: Geneva
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: News Reports Hang gliding Fatality at Ed Levin |
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I wasn't going to post anything about it until those who actually saw the paraglider crash (Paul Gazis), and saw the pilot while he was alive posted something...
But then it was on the news reported as a Hang glider crash, and within minutes (maybe less than 1 minute), one of my mom's coworkers had called her to make sure it wasn't anyone in my family.
There are hundreds of HG pilots that fly Ed Levin, with thousands of people that care about them. When the news reports a paraglider death as a hang glider death, they potentially cause thousands of people to worry about those they care for, for no other reason than poor reporting.
It is for this reason I feel it is relevant to make sure the community knows it was a paraglider, and not a hang glider.
I suspect due to the frequency of misreporting, people who care for people that paraglide still get worried when they hear of a local hang glider crash.
I have some other comments about the incident I will make in due time.
I also have his name, but I will refrain from posting it now as well (if there is a PG pilot that flies Ed Levin that you have not been able to contact, you may PM me).
I went flying, got 17 minutes, it was a backside launch. It was blowing out of the north/off the back some punchy thermals, its my understanding it only got stronger after I landed (This guy launched after I landed and was most/all of the way through tearing down).
There were two PGs significantly above the guy (almost directly over) who crashed, they were above/even with takeoff to the ridge to the right of launch (from launch, looking at the LZ).
I observed the guy who crashed flying below these two, flying just above/below the ridge, at times he was definitely below the top of the ridge, on the side of the ridge facing the LZ (making it likely the lee side, given it was blowing off the back/out of the north, but the flags on the 3 and 6 were more westerly, so I don't know exactly how it was blowing at that ridge).
A few minutes later, Paul sees the guy crash, and seems to think it was pretty bad. (He reported seeing the wing surge forward, I'm not confident enough on the rest of the details to report after that)
We watch for some time, and do not see any movement, even through binoculars (although one person did think he saw some movement)
The guy was apparently alive when the first people got to him (people who were already on top), but I am not confident enough to report with certainty what state he was in, or what injuries he had.
Apparently he was being given CPR, but it was not enough to save him. It seems the guy was dead by the time the emergency personnel got to him, and he was declared dead at the scene (I assume, this declaration was made, as the guy was put in a body bag). _________________ H4, Litespeed 4 w/ Mylar sail.
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DaveB 3 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 379 Location: Ft. Collins,CO
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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PG, HG, Rigid Wing, Sailplane, Powered.. it makes no difference, a fellow pilot died ! May he rest in peace. _________________ Back in the Day ('77-'90)
H4 w / a garage full of Antique Gliders |
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Cloudhopper 3 thumbs up


Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 430 Location: Belmont, CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm really sorry to hear about this accident. This was widely reported on local news media as a hang gliding fatality. This was cleared up by a report in the San Jose mercury news. My prayers go out to his family and friends. |
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Skyhighwoman 3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 2185 Location: Bay Area
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lostgriz 3 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1928 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:27 am Post subject: |
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This is very sad.... RIP my friend. _________________ Wills Wing U2 160
"Better to have a shorter life that is full of what you enjoy doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way." - Alan Watts
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ChattaroyMan 3 thumbs up


Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1803 Location: Chattaroy, WA -USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Having been in a strong lee side rotor before I can testify to the high speeds one can attain in relationship to the ground. I'm guessing from what info. is in this thread so far that this pilot was in a lee side rotor.
When you are in a lee side rotor you're also likely somewhat close to the ground (or soon will be - considering a smaller ridge or hill - not necessarily an entire range in a rotor). One also has very little control in a rotor. Zip for control + high speed relative to the ground + the ground = a very bad situation to get into. The stronger the wind speed the worse the rotor. Avoid lee side rotors at all costs.
The only worse turbulence I've been in have been shears in winter when warmer air is blowing over (at various angles) colder air. Since winter is more/less upon us be cautious of situations were wind next to the surface is little or none yet you see indications of winds aloft (and not too far aloft). One such shear I flew into in an ultralight produced a situation where I saw my breath in front of my face 2 or 3 times before exiting the shear. It was also coupled with sudden 90º banks and near 90º down pitches - all while smoke below me was coming straight up out of chimneys. I entered this shear flying horizontally. It was all I could do to keep my craft upright while trying to head back the way I came from. I don't think I would have been able to do so without the aid of power. In other words - one can get upside down in a shear and then fall against the craft. In the ultra I was strapped into the seat (Quicksilver MXL).
All pilots need to know the various kinds of air movement conditions we may encounter. Better to know enough about them in order to avoid them. This pilot (may he rest in peace) may have not known what he was up against. His accident may or may not have been avoidable (might have been some other cause we may yet learn about). However, rotors and shears are avoidable - not 100% but ..... be careful. This pilot's death is a tragic loss regardless of cause. We each need to be better pilots to help limit these sad occurrences. _________________ U2 160 • Chattaroy, WA - USA |
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Phoenix 2 thumbs up


Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 1414 Location: USA Reg 5
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Ed Leven is usually a pretty benign place, but wind shadow gradient can
become a factor at certain spots in certain winds. Very sad, bless the responders
for doing what they could. |
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joefaust 2 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 75 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Everett A. Greel III, 51, of San Jose, California, USA. _________________ LIFT
http://energykitesystems.net |
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hgflyer 3 thumbs up


Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 3425
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| joefaust wrote: |
| Everett A. Greel III, 51, of San Jose, California, USA. |
Very, very sad news Gonna miss you Friend. Chip always made me smile when ever we shot the breeze. _________________ The sky is no longer the limit! Only our imaginations will be our limit! |
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AirNut 3 thumbs up


Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 148 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ChattaroyMan wrote: |
Having been in a strong lee side rotor before I can testify to the high speeds one can attain in relationship to the ground. I'm guessing from what info. is in this thread so far that this pilot was in a lee side rotor.
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And it's important to remember that rotor can be found not just on the lee side of the main ridge. One time I was launching from a narrow slot in thick forest in strong winds. The wind was coming straight up the slot, but out in front, it was crossing from the left, which put the takeoff in the lee of a large outcropping spur. I got into the rotor behind this spur soon after takeoff and it was, too say the least, pretty terrifying! As ChattaroyMan says, I had no real control but was just along for the ride. At one point, I was thrown almost instantly into a 90 degree right-hand wing-over and I heard quite a loud bang at the same moment; heart in the mouth and one eye on the chute handle!
After about a minute in the washing machine, I managed to fight my way out from behind the spur and out to a landing. Wondering about the source of the bang that I'd head, I examined the glider pretty carefully and soon found that the right-hand dive stick had a 30-degree bend in the middle of it. So, the right wing must have been hit by a strong downward blast from above the wing, enough to bend the dive stick.
A good testament to the strength and power of rotor, and also to the recovery characteristics of our gliders (a paraglider would have had no chance in those conditions). _________________ If God had wanted us to stay on the ground, he'd have given us roots.
SL195, Ranger2, Mega2, Stingray, Meteor 150, GT MIssile, Mars 170, Malibu 166 |
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Alan 3 thumbs up


Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 333 Location: Fremont, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I am sure this will be the major topic of discussion at the WOR meeting tomorrow. For those who want to know the details, the best information you can get will be there. |
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joefaust 2 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 75 Location: Los Angeles
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kadiir 3 thumbs up

Joined: 14 Nov 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: RIP! |
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Although I had only known & worked next to Chip (literally - 5 feet away) for the last 13 months, he will be missed. He was quite a character. He always seemed willing or even eager to help out & teach others. In fact, I wouldn't even have this job if it weren't for him (we met in a training class a few months after I was layed off from my previous job).
He definitely left an impression on the ~17 months he worked here. Many people were saddened to hear the news (even people with whom he's butted heads in the past).
I don't know if it was accurate, but the report on CBS5's (Channel 5) website said he was at "about 80 feet" when it happened. There's also a short video of the scene showing the hill from a helicopter (I think) & what looks like the glider sail on the ground (sorry, not a pilot - hope I got the term correct).
edit: I see joefaust posted the link to the story I mentioned above. |
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kadiir 3 thumbs up

Joined: 14 Nov 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Chip's wife sent out an email this morning wherein she states that his recently acquired glider (IIRC, he had upgraded from a beginner rig to a more advanced one a couple of months ago) suffered an equipment failure and he was trying to land but impacted the ground too hard and died from internal injuries.
She also mentioned that there is a memorial planned on 12/4 @ ~11am at Ed Levin Park.
There's also a Facebook page up but I don't have the link yet. |
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Manta_Dreaming 1 thumbs up


Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 445
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| This was also initially reported the the San Francisco Chronicle as a homicide, which goes to underline that one cannot rely on the initial reporting for facts of any story. |
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Avolare 3 thumbs up

Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 283 Location: NC
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Rest in Peace
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hpyatcldbs 3 thumbs up


Joined: 30 Dec 2010 Posts: 119 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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My condolences.Rest in peace  |
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