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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #101   
Hey Jonathan,

I have the manual on PDF at my work computer. I will send it your way on Monday.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #102   
addicted2climbing wrote:
Hey Jonathan,

I have the manual on PDF at my work computer. I will send it your way on Monday.

Marc
Thanks Marc,
I look forward to getting a copy of your manual in PDF. I flew my newly acquired Freedom 170 for 2 3/4 hours on Saturday at Crestline w/ Remoore and company who came down from Norcal. We had a great time in the air and you'll see his Atos along w/ his buddy Mike's Laminar. I left the SD cards out of 2 of my 3 cameras so I only got a few photos from our driver and just my basetube camera but no wing camera. As far as a flying report goes, it's very much as John Heiney describes in the June USHPA magazine (ignoring the ludicrous glide ratio claims). I did fly it farther downrange than I ever would have gone on my Falcon however.
Cheers, Jonathan

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #103   
Jonathan,

You replied as I was sending you the manual. I sent it to your verizon address.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #104   
addicted2climbing wrote:
Jonathan,

You replied as I was sending you the manual. I sent it to your verizon address.

Marc
Got it Marc. Thanks! I'm posting it here in case anyone else needs a copy. It's not on Northwing's website anyplace I could find it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #105   
Here's a few pics of my (new to me) Freedom FR.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #106   
Bobfly wrote:
Here's a few pics of my (new to me) Freedom FR.

WOW! mosh popcorn thumbsup cheer Yay

I want handicapping points if we ever go head-to-head. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #107   
With your experience? I don't think so. Shocked Joel tells me they've made several changes to it for thermaling ability etc. The basebar has been moved back several inches so the pilot doesn't have to push out so far when circling in a tight thermal for one. We'll compare it to John Stokes Freedom and do a comparison write up between the 2 wings. Looks like John is getting some cross bar fairings and a set of front and rear cables to change the basetube location although he has no complaints as is. My flying wires are apparently race wires also. I'm going falcon hunting at Lookout in 2 weeks. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #108   
Bobfly wrote:
With your experience? I don't think so. Shocked.......The basebar has been moved back several inches..........
Can't blame a player for trying now can ya? ROFL
I'm very happy so far with my straight basebar and its location. I had just enough aft bar to hold a decent spin and for tight thermalling I had more than enough. For stuffing the bar it was also well placed so I may not bother with getting a speedbar.
Here's a shocker: I weighed my glider in its bag and it was 65-66#, whereas my T2C 144 is only 73-74# in its bag. Who's fooling who here on the weight specs? There's no way the bags add up to more than 6#. I never fly without my cover bags so it all goes into the tally.
It was interesting to note that my Cocoon harness weighs 15# less than my Rotor harness. I'd prefer to fly w/ my cocoon harness on this glider but the spaghetti hits the aft wires which is harmless but annoying. I plan to order a slightly longer hang strap from Kamron but for now I have no issues w/ handling. Hopefully, I can get a ride up the hill in Sylmar Wednesday and fly it in mid-day Summer turbulence. That will be the acid test for me. Somehow I have a hunch I will enjoy the bronco ride. Maybe I'll remember to load a memory card into both cameras this time?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #109   
I did fly it farther downrange than I ever would have gone on my Falcon however.
Cheers, Jonathan

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #110   
Damn Bob that is one nice glider . Holy friggen cow that thing looks sooooo Cool .

Man you gatta be just itchin to fly that bird .
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #111   
I absolutely love that Freedom! drool
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #112   
Thanks for all of the compliments guys. She IS a purty thang. Jonathon, when I shouldered the bag to carry it out of the hanger...er..garage, I thought damn, this things as heavy as that 180! I was looking forward to a little less weight.
(sigh) I hope it carries me better then I can carry it.

Thanks RC and Connor. I'm really stoked to get her up in the air. mosh
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #113   
My own Freedom is a hefty lift to say the least. I am just guessing that the full Mylar sail has something to do with that??? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #114   
BEAUTIFUL wing, Bob... drool

If you REALLY want to make us drool, the next picture you post ought to be an in-flight shot.. thumbsup

.. mighty awesome sky decoration you have there!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #115   
a beautiful oak tree and some great flying bros, enjoying refreshments, hangin' around my freedom on saltspring island bc, me on left.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #116   
Nice wing, aqua! I like that shade of green too. Reminds of warm spring days spent flying. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #117   
Hey Bob,

That der is a purty wing. I'm looking forward to flying it in a few weeks. See ya then!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #118   
One more sneak before I get to editing................


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #119   
Cool shot, Jonathan!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #120   
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Cool shot, Jonathan!

John Stokes
Thanks John. It was inspired by Zippy's recent revival of Tontar's revival of Eric Raymond's June, 1983 HG Magazine cover shot. I posted the edited video on this thread: http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=17861

I gave Kameron permission to use the 'money shot' somewhere or other on Northwing's website.
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