[knumbknuts]

assuming you can get work in a tough job market, so cal is the way to go. housing is getting down to realistic prices. I'd recommend flying a few sites and then trying to live as close as possible to your favorite.

bay area's not bad, either. If you really like SF, it's worth it.

[Jason]

[flakey]

[noman3]

buy a place in shitt hole Fresno and fly dunlap crestline tollhouse mclure cloudbuster the owens the pass and if you need some smoothness with red tape then go to the bay area and give shitt loads of money to pat denavin.Once you do your dog and pony show and lick the balls of the appropriate people then and only then will u be able to put a wor sticker on your helmet.I like the least amount of red tape possible and dunlap crestline mcclure the owens valley the Sonora pass are good choices,that i know of.No politics when i fly,the bay area has this in spades.

[flakey]

[fakeDecoy]

I think noman got turned away from Diablo.

What happened with that anyway? They wouldn't give you a sticker?

That's another thing cool about Marina Beach dune gooning. No stickers, no waivers, no fees, no drivers, no politics. Just sign in at the kiosk, get a 5-minute intro, and you're set! Even the Gimp could hide out there.

[noman3]

[day dreamer]

[pike]

Sling,

I grew up in California and would have to be starving before I went back. I don't know what you do for a living, but could you do it anywhere? Cali would be great if you could remove about 15 million people. Real estate is high (though it's down some now )(and SD and SF are the highest), taxes are high to support all the illegals. I would suggest Utah, Southern Colorado, New Mexico, or north Central AZ before I would go to Cali. Much cheaper, but no beach. Plenty of mountains though. Best of luck on what ever you decide.

[sg]

A note on the san diego water. Although relatively warm compared to the bay area, its still cold and requires a wetsuit pretty much year around. The warmest water month in san diego is still cold enough to get you hypothermic.

The median home price in san diego is down 44% from the peak and condos about 57% and still falling



Unemployment is skyrocketing. But that seems to be true in most metropolitan areas.


Foreclosures are still booming. One of the reasons we moved. Didnt want to rent several more years waiting for the market to level out.


Its always been a tough job market there. Be warned.
Like people said... its great if you can afford it (AKA: youre rich)

[SlingBlade]

I'm single, no kids, etc so if I have to live in a smaller place I'm fine with it. I'm in the defense industry so my plan is to just relocate within the company. I talked to a guy who did the same thing and he said they even give you a decent raise when you move to help with the higher cost of living.

[sg]

Thats a good position to be in for a move like that. I have a lot of single guy friends in san diego that rent houses together or rent rooms from other guys sharing a house to keep costs really low.

I use to rent a beach house in La Jolla for $2400/month and rent 2 rooms out.

For the price of renting a room in SD, you can rent a 2 bedroom apartment in NC

[noman3]

you can get a trailer at mcclure for 4000 and a monthly space rental for 80 dollars a month,then you live at a flying site.Problem solved.

[pike]

The other issue is your commute. If you work more than a few miles from your house, you have to get in line on the freeway. I'd have to keep a pistol on the seat next to me. Ok, breathe........................sorry

[flakey]

Bla Bla Bla, same old Cali bashing. The truth is that they have spent billions making every freeway 12 lanes with carpool flyovers here in the OC. Many of my niegbhors work on C17's at Long beach airport (5Mi) or Boeing (2Mi). True the watre never gets above 75 Deg, but we get decent surf most of the year and there's plenty of beaches. As far as rent goes, you can get a nice 3 bdrm house for about 2k and a 2 bdrm apt for 1,200. And as far as the economy goes, it's recession proof around here. Too many billionaires still buying Lambos and ZR1's. There everywhere.

[SlingBlade]

Is there anything like marina beach near san diego? Doon gooning looks like a blast.

[sg]

Depends where you live. In Carmel Valley, San Diego (considered a NICE part of town), a 2 bedroom apartment with garage is $2100-$2300 month, not $1200.

Yes, you can get a $1200/month apartment in SD. In the ghetto


Oh, and the san diego water temp high his 68 degrees, not 75ish

http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/spac.html

[Paul H]

You do realize that the money for those stickers goes to the club associated with those sites, right? You seem to really have some strange hard on for Pat. Even if you don't like him you are letting that affect the club that you should be supporting. Keeping the flying sites open in the bay area has been constant work for decades.

[day dreamer]

Pat, many people have something to say about the guy, but probably don't want to cause any red tape to get on them. He can be a real wiener, and that's all i'm saying about that. You have a fat wallet, he likes you.Can -o worms.

[Skyhighwoman]

If you have a problem with a local club then TAKE IT to the local club website.

Why don't you just go to the WOR site and ask the question. Why don't we have a day use pass or some sort of visitors pass?

Again as someone who did membership it is a PAIN IN THE <ASS>
It is no wonder we lose so many volunteers.




Slingblade - Being a California native I would not know what to tell you as where to go SoCal or NorCal. OOH the decision!!!

Would I move to SoCal? No way in hell. Would someone in SoCal move to NorCal they will probably say the same thing.

Good luck!!


Carmela