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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Atos whacks - Tony comments Reply with quote #1   
Ok, so Tony already gave his comments on this video, haha. Lets hear yours.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
Uh uh errr, where was the flare???? ROFL
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
Here is a video of Tony landing his old ramscare (ram air)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
I'm not an advanced pilot yet, so I can't fly Torrey, but I'm looking forward to wacking there just like that guy some day! big grin

It looks to me like he was behind the glider too far to flare. I've been trying to learn how to stop making those kinds of AoA corrections when I'm only a couple feet off the ground and should be getting ready to flare.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
There were several issues.
1. He came in too slow, and was almost mushing. As you can see, there was no ground skim or round out leading to the flare.
2. He swung his legs forward, moving his CG backwards, and barely pushed at all for a flare. His hands looked a little low. The bar was pushed out forward instead of UP.

We all screw up once in a while, Im not trying to be critical here, but catching bad landings is a good way to analyze and learn.

You should keep your feet back, never swing em forward. Come in with good speed. A good long ground effect gives you lots of time to get your wings perfectly level and to really feel out the flare timing.

Watch this animation, click on the whack button, and compare to what the pilot did in the video.





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I'm not an advanced pilot yet, so I can't fly Torrey, but I'm looking forward to wacking there just like that guy some day! big grin

It looks to me like he was behind the glider too far to flare. I've been trying to learn how to stop making those kinds of AoA corrections when I'm only a couple feet off the ground and should be getting ready to flare.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
Yeah, only us advanced H4's are allowed to fly the safest site in the area
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Funny how the "law", actually makes things MORE dangerous for pilots.

Jacmac wrote:
I'm not an advanced pilot yet, so I can't fly Torrey, but I'm looking forward to wacking there just like that guy some day! big grin

It looks to me like he was behind the glider too far to flare. I've been trying to learn how to stop making those kinds of AoA corrections when I'm only a couple feet off the ground and should be getting ready to flare.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #7   
He's also not in a good position to land nicely. I'll bet that the vehicles and proximity of the field edge were playing on his mind, which causes a tendency to ease the bar out to 'optimise' the glide. Also, once you come into an upslope, you have to come in fast, otherwise you can't come up it- you just fly into it, so you never get the chance to flare. With a better glide, he'd have come further into the field so he'd not have 'mushed' it over the field edge, and he'd have missed the upslope, so he'd have had a chance to round out and flare. Upslopes work really well, but not if you're slow. If he's been a hang glider longer than an atos pilot, I'll bet the flaps dropped him faster than he expected...
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