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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #21   
If she accepts it now then she should have no problems later.
Yeah right, she got her claws in you now buddy! Flying as you know it is over!

JUST KIDDING! ROFL ROFL ROFL

It would help if she has her own life, you have yours and you also have one together. You'll learn to juggle your time if she is not going out flying with you now.

Congratulations! I wish you and your wife to be many many HAPPY years together and flying!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #22   
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Before for our first child was born we talked about what each of us thought was acceptable in terms of my time spent hang gliding. Our compromise was about once a month.


DUDE!!! I almost fell out of my chair when I read that part. The "compromise" was once per month? What was she pushing for, twice per year?

As far off as the sound of wedding bells was in my future, it is now completely inaudible.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #23   
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As far off as the sound of wedding bells was in my future, it is now completely inaudible.


Ditto , If only I could find a nice woman that LOVES to drive up and down mountains all day...

and bring me beer...

and be naked all the time....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #24   
PilotGuy wrote:
Southside wrote:
Before for our first child was born we talked about what each of us thought was acceptable in terms of my time spent hang gliding. Our compromise was about once a month.


DUDE!!! I almost fell out of my chair when I read that part. The "compromise" was once per month? What was she pushing for, twice per year?

As far off as the sound of wedding bells was in my future, it is now completely inaudible.


PilotGuy, you can get married, just don't have children. When you have children, they come first. (I'm in the process of delivering 190 boxes of Girl Scout cookies right now.) I figure I can go up one day every three weeks during the season, and once or twice in November and Jan or Feb. There's a reason I bought a Falcon.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #25   
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As far off as the sound of wedding bells was in my future, it is now completely inaudible.


Ditto , If only I could find a nice woman that LOVES to drive up and down mountains all day...

and bring me beer...

and be naked all the time....


I did! mosh mosh

Not to mention she bought me my first HG and harness. Let me see for Christmas last year I got a GPS. Then there was yesterday, for my birthday, she gave me a carbon fiber instrument pod. Oh BTW we have been married for over 25 years. Yay Yay

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #26   
"Don't give me that." "It's your job to raise the kids."
"I don't give a rat's arse how many hours you spent at the hospital this week."
"Yeah, I know that you were on call last night." "Tough!"
" I didn't put a gun to your head to become a doctor."
"You knew all along what you were getting into."
" And you knew that I was a hang glider pilot before you married me."
"So the hell with it!" "I'm going flying!"


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #27   
want2fly wrote:
Talk about getting not getting the warm and fuzzies about marriage Shocked

... Where are the posers... they must have some reassuring words on marital bliss

Fortunately the soon to be Mrs. Want2fly thinks hang gliding is pretty cool. At 5' she isn't quite sure about picking it up herself, but would totally love to try a tandem. She likes it when I am gone periodically so she can watch her chick flicks with out me snickering at her Mr. Green

jjcote, I'll PM you sometime soon about carpooling to Morningside.



Hi want2fly! Well, truthfully, I'm not sure if Randy or I are the best folks to look to for advice. For one thing, we aren't married. Laughing Randy never has been. I was before we hooked up and it ended in divorce. I could give you plenty of advice on what NOT to do. Wink

But....if you want to know some tips on what TO DO, I might can help there too. For one thing, keep a sense of humor. I have found that has been one of the single most important things in our relationship. He can always make me laugh. That has definitley come in handy for me the past several years. I'll tell you a little something that happened yesterday...

We are in the process of cleaning out our office to get it ready to paint,etc. Well, Randy has been working out of town since around the beginning of the year, so we only have weekends together. For the past 6 weekends I have been nagging Wink at him to go through all of his stuff that was in there and he has definitley took his time with it, only doing a little at a time. Laughing Yesterday, as he finally approached the end of his long journey towards an office free and clear of clutter, he kept getting sidetracked by objects he found in boxes or even in other rooms when he would go to put something in its rightful place. He found an All- in -One screwdriver that Santa left in his stocking several years ago, still in the package. He had to take a good gander at that for a while, I believe while sitting in his chair in the living room. Wink Then as he went to put that away, he found a CD case and actually counted the sleeves to see how many CDs it would hold...he counted very slowly. Wink A little later, he came walking through the living room with a handful of misc. ammo he had found. He was jingling it around looking at it very purposefully as if questioning it with his eyes. As he did that, I started laughing so hard. He asked me what was so funny. I told him how I had been watching him go through his things and how he kept getting distracted by the slightest things and it was just funny to me. At that point, I was really ready for the office to be finished....and the only thing I could do short of wringing his neck for taking so many weekends to go through his things was laugh. It made me feel better. It made him laugh. And it made me realize how much patience I do have when I need to. Laughing Fortunately, the office has now been turned over to me, for prepping the walls and painting. He was even nice enough to get all of the supplies and the ladder for me and set everything up in the office. AND....to keep me from inhaling dust when sanding the walls, he even offered me up a fan so that I can put it in the window and breathe mostly clean air. Laughing But, it will be worth all my hard work, because I have gained a few laughs, a little more tolerance, and in the long run I will gain a clean and organized office. In the process, I have gotten him to purge some of his old junk that he doesn't really need....and that makes me really happy. Wink

Randy and I may not always get along, but we have learned which battles are worth fighting and which ones are better left alone. We believe in working hard for the same goal, no matter which one of us is doing the majority of the work. It doesn't matter how we achieve those goals as long as we each get to share in the excitement of our accomplishments. We have many of the same basic values, which is very important, especially when raising kids. We choose to spend time together. We have the same interests and that makes it much easier for us to be together.

Of course, I am telling you all of this, and I am reminded of one very important fact. Randy is the perfect man! Smile I'm not kidding. He is absolutley perfect for me. We have been together for almost nine years and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Even with all the ups and downs our relationship has gone through, well, that has only made it stronger. If there is such a thing as a "soul mate", he is mine. He is my best friend!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #28   
CHassan wrote:
One thing I have found is my "wife time" must be equal to 2x my hang gliding time.
Calculating it can be pretty difficult at times, due to the ever changing definition of "wife time".
To start with, any time spent with the wife counts towards wife time. Examples
    * Spending time with the wife and family
    * Spending with the wife and friends
    * Driving to an overlook and observing the view


After a period of time, these events will no longer account for wife time, and may require additional wife time to balance out. Examples
    * Spending time with the wife and her family will no longer count towards wife time.
      ** Spending time with your wife, and your family can require 1.5 time additional wife time.

    * Spending time with the wife and friends no longer counts towards wife time.
      ** Spending time with your wife and your friends can require 1.5x additional wife time.

    * Driving to an overlook (aka Launch) and sitting around waiting for the winds to come around is no longer wife time.
      ** In fact this can lead to a required 3x additional wife time!


Once kids are involved, time must further be broken down to kid time, and wife time. Any time spent with the wife and kid(s) can be used as kid time, but not wife time. Kid time must equal 2x hang gliding time, wife time has increased to a required 3x hang gliding time.

So if you want to spend 8 hours on Saturday hang gliding, if you have kids kids, be prepared to spend an additional 24 hours of “quality time” with the wife, as well as 16 hours with the kids.
Wife time will ultimately equal the time with only the wife, doing what the wife wants, when she wants, and how she wants! Be prepared to start and stop the timer if a “friend" happens to call, stop by, or be in the same store. (apply any additional time if the firiend happens to be your!)

Speaking of store……. Replace wife time, with money spent by the wife. (Note, money spent ON the wife by you NEVER counts towards the money spent by the wife. Money spent on the wife is a category of its own, and is beyond the scope of this post.)

DUDE,that is some funny s***. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #29   
this stuff remided me of something I read awhile ago....
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Need a Husband?

A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City , where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates: You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!

So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

Floor 1 - These men Have Jobs.
She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 2 - These men Have Jobs and Love Kids.
'That's nice,' she thinks, 'but I want more.' So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:

Floor 3 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking.
'Wow,' she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:
Floor 4 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework.
'Oh, mercy me!' she exclaims, 'I can hardly stand it!' Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 5 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak.
She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:
Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,013 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.

PLEASE NOTE:
To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New Wives store just across the street.
The first floor has wives that love sex.

The second floor has wives that love sex and have money and like beer.

The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #30   
ROFL Absolutely hilarious dievhart!!


I guess Randy isn't the perfect man after all....he doesn't "love kids". But, honestly...neither do I!! Laughing I love the ones that will behave which is getting harder and harder to find these days.

Unfortunately for Randy, I am not the perfect woman either. I am broke!! Laughing

Oh well, we've learned to accept each other's flaws. Laughing Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #31   
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #32   
It's very easy to have a happy marriage. I got married at 18 and am now 41. For a lot of years I tried to keep myself happy, doing what I wanted to do, which had mixed results. Now I know the easy way. Don't worry about making/keeping yourself happy. Make the WIFE happy. If SHE'S happy, YOU, in turn, WILL be happy. Cause when she ain't happy, NOBODY repeat NOBODY is happy. It took me some years to figure that simple thing out and put it into practice. It actually takes very little effort to make/keep them happy. You get a large return for a little investment. In my early years I tried to buck the system now and then. That never really ended in happiness.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #33   
Ah, a wise man indeed.

Happy Wife, Happy Life!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #34   
Oh god you guys are funny!! If this chair didn't have arms on it, I would have hit the floor a few times.

Now I'm going to say something that might piss some off. But having a spouse is like having a dog. I don't mean that like you think. I love dogs and I love my wife very much, very dearly.

But as Rad said, someone has to be in charge. And you each have to know your boundaries. One of the things that she must understand is what is important to you and what you will absolutely NOT give up. And the same is true with you.

Something you must understand is that women will marry a man thinking she will and can change you. It is up to you to let her change what you want her to change. A very important thing is if you want to include her in HG, you have to find an outlet for her. Something that she will like to do while you are flying. And you must support her effort twice as much as she does you.

This is good for two reasons. I) it gives you ammo when you need something new for HG and it gives you ammo for when you need that fix. Its harder for her to say no when you can say I've spent X amount of time supporting you doing whatever.

You must remember as CHassen said. Wife time changes as she wishes. so what works today for wife time doesn't neccassarily count as wife time tomorrow. I've spent all day with my wife and the next day she said I hadn't done anything with her in a week or two. Women's hormones change as they get older as well or have kids. BE PREPARED!!!

The best thing is to talk to her, let her know how important HG is to you and how important she is as well. Its a balancing act that changes each day. I've been married for 21 years. But the most important thing is to love and forgive each other. Then forget what ever happened. Holding onto hard feelings is a sure recipe for divorce.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #35   
Been married since '99 and have three kids, here is my take:

Have interests! You found what you love to do, I hope she has found her thing. Now commit to doing the things that make you happy, and be supportive of the other persons interests.

One of the best things that happened in our marriage is when my wife joined roller derby. It was a big commitment, especially with 3 kids. But I worked with her and was very supportive. Here is what was great: she loves it and it gave her something outside of our marriage to be passionate about, she met a great group of very supportive women, we were apart more (absence makes the heart grow fonder--remember that), she wears fishnets 3 times a week (YAY!), and the best part for me is that it kind of gave me the permission to pursue something that I always wanted to do. Our marriage is a lot better since she started beating other women up. It may sound dumb, but it really was one of the best things for our marriage.

Another thing: you will probably have passionate sex for the next year or two (less if you make a baby too soon), so SOAK IT UP. Because before too long she will be asking you if you mailed the check for the electric bill in the middle of it.

And about kids: Is there a word for something, once created, destroys the mechanism of its own creation? Ahhh, right: KIDS. But its okay, because they also suck up all your funds, test your patience to its limits, worry you to death, and make you feel insane. On the other hand, kids are also the very best thing about being alive. They will give you your greatest joys, make you so proud you could pop, and allow you to experience a love so deep it will take your breath away. Have kids, lots of them...but make some memories with just you and your wife first. Those memories will allow you to get through the times when you are staring at each other at 2am, trying to will the other person to clean the vomit with which your precious child has bathed herself.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #36   
Kids and happiness have been studied quite a bit in the last few years and the results have been very interesting.

OVER ALL - kids make people slightly less happy. Of course, as a parent, you would never dare openly admit this, you just cant, but in anonymous polls they do Wink All the good times balance out the bad, almost. In fact, one study I read said that even after the kids leave the nest, they make you slightly less happy due to worry. Empty nest syndrome has also shown to be a HAPPIER time for couples over all Laughing So many misconceptions out there, its really good to see the data coming out now.

So I figure... hmmmmm... incredibly huge $$$$ expense for, "slightly less happy" and lifelong worry??? No thanks ill pass Laughing Greyhounds do just fine Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #37   
I have a friend that postulates that parents should be allowed, by law, to kill their kids if deemed appropriate.

It would go far towards creating a much more polite population of children.

Ancillary to this theory is the notion that every person should be allowed to kill one other person, no questions asked, once in his or her lifetime.

Consider - that person that you are about to be rude to, or rip off in some way, may not have used up his free shot yet.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #38   
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Kids and happiness have been studied quite a bit in the last few years and the results have been very interesting.

OVER ALL - kids make people slightly less happy. Of course, as a parent, you would never dare openly admit this, you just cant, but in anonymous polls they do Wink All the good times balance out the bad, almost. In fact, one study I read said that even after the kids leave the nest, they make you slightly less happy due to worry. Empty nest syndrome has also shown to be a HAPPIER time for couples over all Laughing So many misconceptions out there, its really good to see the data coming out now.

So I figure... hmmmmm... incredibly huge $$$$ expense for, "slightly less happy" and lifelong worry??? No thanks ill pass Laughing Greyhounds do just fine Mr. Green


I wouldn't trade mine for any amount of free time, money or opportunity. But, that's just me. Not everyone should be a parent.

Aren't we kind of jumping the gun here? The boy's just about to get married, and already we've got him being a father... ahh
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #39   
Radwhacker wrote:
I have a friend that postulates that parents should be allowed, by law, to kill their kids if deemed appropriate.

It would go far towards creating a much more polite population of children.

Ancillary to this theory is the notion that every person should be allowed to kill one other person, no questions asked, once in his or her lifetime.

Consider - that person that you are about to be rude to, or rip off in some way, may not have used up his free shot yet.


..i have mine picked out...a very deserving bastard...$hit it would be worth it for a year in the pen! Shocked ROFL

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: What guys think about.... Reply with quote #40   
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Basically, let her know what you are thinking (chicks dig it)...


Ummmm....it depends. My sweetie (24 years married) relates this story about
our early married life.

We were in a nice restaurant in San Francisco a couple months after we were
married. Sitting there at the table, I was gazing across the room more or less
in her direction. She smiled, leaned toward me and asked what I was thinking
of, right now. And I told her.

Across the room was a reflection from a red neon light tube. Visible in that
tube was an interference pattern...a series of light and dark bands in the hot
plasma which was glowing. As I watched, those bands gradually moved back
and forth in some kind of resonance pattern, halting and then reversing in a
repeating way. I was contemplating the mechanism behind this resonance,
since if it was purely an acoustic phenomenon based on the drive frequency
and the length of the tube, it should be a stationary standing wave. It might
be thermal, but why would it oscillate? Could it be a thermal/acoustic
interaction, driven by temperature changes due to emission efficiency at the
electrodes? Would the acoustic pressure variations have a significant effect
on the work function at the electrode surface? Or could it be some other
aspect of plasma physics?

So I explained my faraway look, and she's known ever since not to ask me
what I'm thinking about. Wink

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