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gtpowell 2 thumbs up


Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 339 Location: High Above So. California
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys, a word of caution.
There are several of these bed extender racks on the market. But, there is only one made in the US and the US manufactured one is the only one worth buying. It is about $180. The other ones are manufactured in 3rd world countries and are not worth the cardboard box it arrived in. These cheep imitations are available on eBay, Harbor Freight, Amazon and more. If you decide to purchase one, be sure you are purchasing the unit made here in the US. I bought the imitation, paid extensive freight charges to get it here, and basically, threw the thing in the trash. Total piece of Junk. The wing wobbled as mush as 10" side to side and several inches front to back. The height adjustment is limited so you end up bowing your wing when you place it on top of this rack and the vehicle’s factory rack. I have extensive fabrication skills and began to improve the unit, but eventually decided my time was more valuable. I built my own rack from scratch in not much more time and I’m far more pleases. The last thing I would do with my $3500 glider is entrust this rack to keep it safe and secure on my vehicle.
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Windlord 3 thumbs up


Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 4704 Location: Montana
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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gtpowell
If you are unsure of what you're getting, give your local welder/fabricator da biz.
My rack was finished yesterday, powder coated and on the truck.
Will take some pics, but how da hell do you post them for all to see?
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Windlord 3 thumbs up


Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 4704 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got pics of my rack.
Middle and rear crossbars are removeable for tall items in the bed.
Has 10ft of support, which leaves 4ft out front and back.
Custom made by a local welder/metal fabricator
Weight- approx. 90lbs, made of steel tubing and is powder coated.
Yeah, I know it's blue. If you lived in this frozen place, your rack would be blue too.
Got to get one of those missle carriers !!
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FormerFF 3 thumbs up


Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 2482 Location: Roswell, Georgia, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nice design. You're driving!
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MikeB 1 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 145 Location: Monrovia, Ca.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Windlord wrote: |
| Finally got pics of my rack... |
Nice scenery, thanks for sharing. Where are the pads you'll need to treat your glider with TLC?
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Lobido 3 thumbs up


Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 4099 Location: St. Croix, US Virgin Islands
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Nice rack, Walt! Quite a background, just beautiful.
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Windlord 3 thumbs up


Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 4704 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Mike!
For pads, I'm using double layers of 3/4 inch pipe insulation.
Will secure the pads with electrical tape. Not haulin now, so I keep them
off.
There was about 5 inches of snow on the ground before I took the shots.
Rain and warm temp came through yesterday and it's all pau, for now.
Hey Curt!
Yeah, you beat me to the post again, dang!
Outta here tomorrow for 3 weeks in Mexico.
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hgflyer 3 thumbs up


Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 3425
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations on your Hang 1 Matt.
hgflyer
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DanTuck 3 thumbs up


Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 740 Location: Northern VA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what I came up with.
It's loosely based on the ladder idea, made out of 2" sq. aluminum normally used to make big sliding gates (I work for a fence company).
It is 12' x 2' so I can carry 2 gliders - my roof can't take any more than that.
I have a Yakima base rack system with the stretch kit that widens the distance between crossbars by 4" - it helps.
The glider rack, at just over 40 lbs., is then U-bolted to the base rack and tied down at the front and back.
I use bits of non-slip padding at the metal to metal points and it really reduces/eliminates any slipping from road vibrations.
It's surprisingly strong and sturdy and I'm happy I didn't have to weld anything to my car.
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wilburleft 3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 785 Location: FL
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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DanTuck,
I like the rack. Would it hold ok without the front and rear ropes? I want a rack that I can open the hood and the tailgate without ropes in the way. The 'ladder' looks like it's bolted on there pretty well. So I guess the weakness would be twisting the base attachments, hence the ropes?
I need a set-up for my 99 Pathfinder.
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FormerFF 3 thumbs up


Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 2482 Location: Roswell, Georgia, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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It looks industrial strength, Dan.
Has anybody used one of these to tie down their ladder?
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DanTuck 3 thumbs up


Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 740 Location: Northern VA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
The front and back ropes are really just there for safety.
They aren't very tight and attach to bungees for a little bit of shock absoprtion.
The rack only flexes a tiny bit on the road (with glider on top) but the ropes are there for wind gusts from the big rigs on the highway.
I'm not sure that they are necessary but rather safe than sorry!
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DanTuck 3 thumbs up


Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 740 Location: Northern VA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| FormerFF wrote: |
| It looks industrial strength, Dan. |
Yeah, I'm not sure what gauge the aluminum tube is but it's what we make 30' industrial gates out of. It's tough.
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Nibs 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 2612 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| FF, the best way I have found to tie down a ladder is to use exhaust clamps. They are cheap, strong, and quick to put on if you replace the nuts with wingnuts. I used to use rope... this is much better.... but only works if the ladder rungs more or less lineup with your rack bars.
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FormerFF 3 thumbs up


Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 2482 Location: Roswell, Georgia, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Nibs wrote: |
| FF, the best way I have found to tie down a ladder is to use exhaust clamps. They are cheap, strong, and quick to put on if you replace the nuts with wingnuts. I used to use rope... this is much better.... but only works if the ladder rungs more or less lineup with your rack bars. |
That's a Thule bow and stern tiedown, that you'd use to tie the ladder to you bumper. Sorry for the confusion.
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Nibs 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 2612 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Doh. I was wondering how you'd use that to tie the ladder to your rack
I've used cheaper versions of that tie to the ladder or wing to my front tow-hook. Home depot sells them for really cheap and they grip pretty well. But what I have done lately is tie the ladder not only to my rack, but to my hood hinges. I loop two super-short hang straps around my hood hinges and tuck them under the hood when not in use. When I need them, I pull the loop out and loop some rope or a tie-down strap through them and secure the glider or ladder to that. Just added insurance in the event the rack fails.
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Redbeard 3 thumbs up


Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 1291 Location: Santa Shoes, California
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| wilburleft wrote: |
DanTuck,
I like the rack. Would it hold ok without the front and rear ropes? I want a rack that I can open the hood and the tailgate without ropes in the way. The 'ladder' looks like it's bolted on there pretty well. So I guess the weakness would be twisting the base attachments, hence the ropes?
I need a set-up for my 99 Pathfinder. |
i drive a 94 jeep Cherokee. I'll try to get some pics tomorrow (in the day light) of my set up.
i have a Yakima rack on the roof and a removable rack for the front. the receiver portion of the rack stays on the front of the jeep-i don't think it is too offensive. i just slip the rack into the receiver portion and put in 4 pip pins. (photos to follow)
something like this may work for you, if the reciever portion is not too offensive.
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wilburleft 3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 785 Location: FL
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Look forward to seeing your set up Redbeard. It sounds just like the set up on my other car (selling)...receiver bolted to bumper, but front rack slides snugly into receiver, no pins needed. I haven't decided to drill into the Pathfinder bumper yet...so I can just transfer the rack from the other car, but I think I will cause I put some sweat into it that pretty rack.
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henderthing 2 thumbs up


Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 278 Location: Arroyo Grande, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the responses--
Well--I got my hang 2 a couple weeks ago, and finally got around to taking my F3 home. This is what I ended up with, FWIW. Seems to work pretty well with half of a 28' extension ladder. Damn that 195 is long. I think it's safe to say it's the longest-packing glider I'll ever own. After all my concern about front rack vs. ladder--it turns out the glider would have *barely* reached the front rack.
-matt
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knumbknuts 3 thumbs up


Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 5004 Location: Carlsbad, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nice...
If you can get that rear bar lined up with the front two (shorten it?), I don't think you need the ladder... no 13' or greater segment should be unsupported... looks like you've got that covered.
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