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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Instructor Clinic. Reply with quote #1   
Does anyone know where I can find information on instructor clinics?? When, where, and how much.....
It is about time..........
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
Is there a story here?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
Yeah, a story about a boy and his dream!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
Couple of links might be helpful to you...
first, a list of those able to sign you off is at,
http://www.ushpa.aero/appointment_types_table.asp?appt=IP+Administrator&div=Hang+Gliding
and the general flow of how it's done is at,
http://www.ushpa.aero/documents/Flowchart_Instructor_Cert.pdf
(note: the training seminar [ITS] is optional and you are allowed to go directly to evaluation [IE] if you prefer)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
Many thanks Rob!
I have already seen these, but now that you mention skipping the ITS, I have a question.

On the flow chart it says
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NOTE
Highly skilled pilots with instructor experience may go directly to the
Instructor Evaluation. However, if they fail to pass the evaluation they must
complete an ITS before seeking another Instructor evaluation


Does this mean if I can pass the evaluation, I can skip the Seminar, or are there requirements that define "Highly Skilled" and "instructor experience"?

Following those lines, what should I expect during the Evaluation?

TomGalvin, since you just went through all of this, anything bits of knowledge you can think of? Same goes for you other instructors, hgflyer, Red, Wingspan, Mr Voight.......etc...etc... any information is welcomed!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
I went through the ITS with Paul Voight. Jimmy D, Lancelot, and GottaFly were in the seminar with me. I highly recommend it. Check the link Rob provided or contact Paul. He will travel to run the seminar if there are enough people interested.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #7   
Rob, Ive got a question. What about the requirement for logged hours? I stopped logging my flights long ago, and have long since lost my old log books.

Can I get in on my good looks alone?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
Radwhacker wrote:
Can I get in on my good looks alone?




http://www.ushpa.aero/instructors_how_to_become.asp

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #9   
Radwhacker wrote:
Rob, Ive got a question. What about the requirement for logged hours? I stopped logging my flights long ago, and have long since lost my old log books.

Can I get in on my good looks alone?


I think if you are still alive with the scary gliders you've flown, Rad, you've met the requirements. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
Is that geek humor?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #12   
Aviation geek humor! Mr. Green This thread is squawking 7500!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #13   
Thanks to Wikipedia I now know what squawk 7500 means. Razz

But I'm not sure what the reference to hijacking is for - I was seriously interested in finding out if I could qualify for an instructor rating.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #14   
I just found the graphic and thought I'd use it with the first off topic smart @..uhh wisecrack that came up.
Frankly I think I 7500 my own thread! ahh
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #15   
CHassan wrote:
Many thanks Rob!
I have already seen these, but now that you mention skipping the ITS, I have a question.

On the flow chart it says
Quote:
NOTE
Highly skilled pilots with instructor experience may go directly to the
Instructor Evaluation. However, if they fail to pass the evaluation they must
complete an ITS before seeking another Instructor evaluation


Does this mean if I can pass the evaluation, I can skip the Seminar, or are there requirements that define "Highly Skilled" and "instructor experience"?

Following those lines, what should I expect during the Evaluation?

TomGalvin, since you just went through all of this, anything bits of knowledge you can think of? Same goes for you other instructors, hgflyer, Red, Wingspan, Mr Voight.......etc...etc... any information is welcomed!!


"Highly Skilled" and "instructor experience" are not specifically defined. Let's say a new H3 has had exposure to a good training program when he was learning and it's fresh in his mind, and let's also say he has had a lot of teaching background or has a natural ability to organize a lesson plan and to communicate. He may want to simply ask to be evaluated.

I believe one of the most important parts of teaching is evaluation. Not being evaluated but rather evaluating a student. To me it's the skill that's the hardest to develop and the most important in the longterm safety of one's students. It takes a lot of experience to do this. For example, we teach in my area with a fair amount of bunny hill and some tandems from a mountain and eventualy there comes the big step... the first mountain solo. How good does a student need to be to take this next leap? So for this type of decisionmaking as an instructor,... may the force be with you.

I've seen comments that becoming an instructor has a lot of hoops and that the rating keeps expiring so why bother. Well considering the clinics are optional and "evaluation only" is an option it's not very hard to earn for those with the skills. And for the expiration thing, after you become an advanced instructor, you only need to teach 5 lessons a year and keep up your first aid card. Just email this proof to either your director or any Instructor Administrator and if they are willing to sign (they probably will) you are good to go for another 3 years. There's a good chance this recert can then be done by mail to get the signature.

Oh, and Rad, about lost (log) books and good looks. You are lucky. In my case as I get older it's the other way around,.. lost looks, and good books.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #16   
So Rob, what would I have to do to get you to evaluate me?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #17   
ote="hgflyer"]Ray Leonard will be hosting an itp clinic. (instructor training program)
Berkely CA.
month of january 2nd week.

This clinic is for pilots who would like to become hg instructors......(check ushpa guidlines) to see if you qualify.

PM me for more details........

Thanks everyone.....have a happy holiday[/quote]

An update from Ray,
cost
150 recertification
300 basic instructor rating
when
Jan 12 and 13th.
10 am start time
where
Oakland CA (exact location to be determined). I will post more updates as I recieve them. Thanks all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #18   
Hi Craig,
Well I would be happy to do an evaluation. Seems I live a long way away from you (Ohio/Cali) so surely there is someone closer to you. But if it were me, I would imagine something as follows.

The evaluation will start with some long distance dialogue between us and then we have to get together in one place for a bit. The get together would probably be a day or two. Longer if waiting on weather. My preference is to do it in my area. But even that decision would be affected by the training arrangement you have in your area. If it is so different than what I would be able to test you at here then you coming here may not be best. I want to conduct a testing that is relevant to how you will be teaching.

I would do some homework ahead of time as well like asking Bo how you were in earning the Intermediate rating a year ago. And maybe I should find out from your local director if they have had any issues. Just letting you know because I don't want to appear like I'm going behind your back. Just trying to find out who you are. Relax, nobody expects you to walk on water. I surely can't being as dense as I am.

Finally when we get together there would be some written testing and practical testing.

I'll PM my cell# to continue to talk about it if you like.

rob





If you are serious we should probably take this off the forum and do it with phone calls or personal emails.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #19   
Once again, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I'll give you a ring.
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