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shane 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Apr 2012 Posts: 67 Location: Where we park
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:09 am Post subject: Transport Tube |
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Hey all,
I'm looking to have my glider on top of my truck for months on end as I travel around the country. I'd like something that both protects it from the elements and provides a bit more security. I've seen PVC and HDPE double wall pipe as options, but they are both quite spendy (>$200).
Anybody know of other options?
Perhaps a weather proof bag? I've looked into sealed cardboard shipping tubes and concrete forms but not had much luck there either.
~shane
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Dan Harding 3 thumbs up


Joined: 21 Mar 2011 Posts: 669 Location: Washington State, close to the blanchard site
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I would go with the weather proof bag, still about $200. but worth it.
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shane 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Apr 2012 Posts: 67 Location: Where we park
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| Where are good places to buy such a bag?
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Jason 3 thumbs up


Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 7532 Location: Stapleton, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Transport Tube |
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| shane wrote: |
Hey all,
I'm looking to have my glider on top of my truck for months on end as I travel around the country. I'd like something that both protects it from the elements and provides a bit more security. I've seen PVC and HDPE double wall pipe as options, but they are both quite spendy (>$200).
Anybody know of other options?
Perhaps a weather proof bag? I've looked into sealed cardboard shipping tubes and concrete forms but not had much luck there either.
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I have one in Milpitas CA, if you want to pick it up Im sure it could be arranged, PM me
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klh 3 thumbs up


Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 330 Location: San Bernardino, CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The problem with a tube is that if the glider bounces around inside of it then there can be a lot of wear on the sail. I've seen a glider that was transported regularly in a tube and the mylar inserts in the leading edge sawed through the outside of the pocket i.e. the LE.
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Sbone

Joined: 11 Aug 2010 Posts: 55 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Ive spent last two summers traveling australia with my gliders and have used water resistant canvas bags from Wingtec, the company who makes Airbornes sails. they create a vacuum when driving which sucks in a little bit of water if its raining but easy to just unzip and dry the tips. I got white ones made as apposed to the standard dark blue, the intention being to cut down on heat absorbtion from the intense Aussie sun. Im not sure of the affects of heat on sails but the white bags stay cool and the blue ones are hot to touch.
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jjcote 3 thumbs up


Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 3216 Location: Lunenburg, MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Tube: great for static storage, not good for road transportation.
In the US, Gunnison Gliders is highly recommended for weatherproof bags. Easily found with Google.
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Windlord 3 thumbs up


Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 4704 Location: Montana
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shane 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Apr 2012 Posts: 67 Location: Where we park
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys! Rusty is going to make me up a extra heavy duty one out of some new material he's fired up about.
thanks again!!
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dievhart 2 thumbs up


Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Santa Cruz, CA (Fort Funston)
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Please give us a complete review of it when you get it....how much?
Diev
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shane 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Apr 2012 Posts: 67 Location: Where we park
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| $137 with shipping.
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Cal Glider 3 thumbs up


Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 259 Location: Blythe CA. USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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I used a white PVC tube on my truck for a short while, I was thinking of painting the front of the tube blood red and attaching a piece of white rope to the back end so it would look like a giant…
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shane 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Apr 2012 Posts: 67 Location: Where we park
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Pictures of my new Gunnison Glider Bag!
Pic 1 -> My normal form fitted bag
Pic 2 -> New Gunnison bag (Gray Cordura with PVC coating)
Pic 3 -> End handle
Its a bit baggy but it's heavy and clearly very robust.
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shafi420

Joined: 23 Jun 2012 Posts: 5 Location: vancouver, BC
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: Well gunnison bags |
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| yup i saw a few gunnison bags for sale on classifieds. anyone know what to do if the zipper not closing properly?
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red 3 thumbs up


Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 2732 Location: Utah, USA . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sol III
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:09 am Post subject: Re: Well gunnison bags |
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| anyone know what to do if the zipper not closing properly? |
shafi420,
With the zipper closed, give it a coupla swipes with a block of hard, clear wax for lubrication. I got some from a gunsmith, they use it on the wooden stocks. You don't need to use much. Candle wax is too soft and oily, really. I won't use any liquids on a zipper, but if you must use some spray stuff, spray it on a cloth, and wipe the cloth on the zipper teeth only.
If the zipper slider is bad, a new slider can be had, maybe at camping or surplus stores. Zipper teeth are seldom at fault, there. For the time being, you can use small vice-grips to close down the rear of the slider slightly, pressing on each side (left and right) of the pull-tab. Just get the slider working, there, don't overdo it. That trick will work for a while, but the metal is failing, and you will need a new slider soon. Contact the bag maker for a new slider, if you strike out locally.
You can get the best service from zippers if you always pull straight in the direction of the teeth, never pulling up (away from the glider). Hard wax is the best zipper lube; wax does not migrate, or collect dirt.
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AIRTHUG 3 thumbs up


Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 6159 Location: Point of the Mountain, Draper, UT
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:27 am Post subject: |
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If you're ordering a waterproof bag, make sure you ask for a bag that's one continuous piece of material. It might be more expensive, but there are a lot of "waterproof" bags that have seams running the length of the glider... which kind of defeats the purpose of the waterproof material.
I use one almost always, but more for UV and abrasion protection than for weather-proofing.
One more note... if the glider gets wet, even damp (end-of-the-day dew) these heavy weather-proof bags will boil the glider as it sits in the sun and heats up. If moisture can't get in easily... it can't get out, either...
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psuguru 3 thumbs up


Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 378 Location: The Darkest Hinterlands of Essex
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:45 am Post subject: |
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I have a particularly difficult entranceway into the garden, where I keep the glider in a tube. The Moyes glider bag is always getting caught on thorn bushes and fences and I've damaged the glider, so I bought a heavyweight PVC fabric tube. It's welded shut except at one end, so the glider slides in like into a giant condom. It has no handles and that makes it really difficult to pick up. Also, it's about 7kG in weight, so it makes the glider quite difficult to deal with.
The dampness issue gets dealt with by leaving the end of the bag open, when it's on the car. It's longer than the glider, so the end just hangs down and no water can get in if it's raining.
That Gunnison Bag looks super.
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Skyhighwoman 3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 2185 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: |
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If my glider is wet i do not put it in the weatherproof bag. Same with putting it away in the tubes i do not do it if the glider is wet.
transport use the weather proof bags. ordered mine from rusty $137 more for UV protection and wear for the glider.
Safe travels and Happy flying!!
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