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Ido
Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 37 Location: Israel
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: girl killed in training flight. UK |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-15505188
not a lot of details, extremely sorrowing..
16 is awfully young, i cant put a number on the minimum age to start hg but i think it has to be higher than that |
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lostgriz 3 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1928 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:14 am Post subject: |
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This is very sad. _________________ Wills Wing U2 160
"Better to have a shorter life that is full of what you enjoy doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way." - Alan Watts
http://vimeo.com/27531088# |
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Dan Harding 3 thumbs up


Joined: 21 Mar 2011 Posts: 669 Location: Washington State, close to the blanchard site
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: |
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There is not much info yet. Judy Leden is part of the Airways Air Sport team I think??? _________________ U.S.H.G.A. # 20275 |
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adi 3 thumbs up

Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 690 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:22 am Post subject: |
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shocked... sad day for everyone involved. Heart goes out to her family. _________________ The best 'thermals' are to be found over poorly maintained helium factories. |
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day dreamer 2 thumbs up


Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 3746 Location: McClure Pilot
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: |
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My son wants to fly, he is about the same age. That is why I am hesitant. I know he can do it but if something did happen, and he couldn't think quick enough, or lock up, or what but all those things would go through my head for the rest of my life if something did happen. I can't afford that. I am sure these things are going through the minds of those HG avid parents. Condolences. _________________ Always a student.
"The mountain doesn't care what that card in your wallet says." - Bruce Stobbe |
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NMERider 3 thumbs up


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Bondy 3 thumbs up

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 425 Location: Perth WA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Too young, regards to family and friends. _________________ You only live twice
Sonic 190, Sting 154, Combat 2 14, Explorer, Mosquito NRG and a Falcon 3 195 |
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fakeDecoy 2 thumbs up


Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 950 Location: Fort Funston, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| day dreamer wrote: |
| My son wants to fly, he is about the same age. That is why I am hesitant. I know he can do it but if something did happen, and he couldn't think quick enough, or lock up, or what but all those things would go through my head for the rest of my life if something did happen. I can't afford that. I am sure these things are going through the minds of those HG avid parents. Condolences. |
You should talk to Bill Cuddy about how he trained Alex. _________________ H2 / Sport 2 155
There is no spoon.
Never trust internet pilots! |
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Darbbb 2 thumbs up


Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 851 Location: Western Maryland
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lostgriz 3 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1928 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| day dreamer wrote: |
| My son wants to fly, he is about the same age. That is why I am hesitant. I know he can do it but if something did happen, and he couldn't think quick enough, or lock up, or what but all those things would go through my head for the rest of my life if something did happen. I can't afford that. I am sure these things are going through the minds of those HG avid parents. Condolences. |
I know exactly how you feel. I feel like this is too young as a general rule. _________________ Wills Wing U2 160
"Better to have a shorter life that is full of what you enjoy doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way." - Alan Watts
http://vimeo.com/27531088# |
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lostgriz 3 thumbs up


Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 1928 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| day dreamer wrote: |
| My son wants to fly, he is about the same age. That is why I am hesitant. I know he can do it but if something did happen, and he couldn't think quick enough, or lock up, or what but all those things would go through my head for the rest of my life if something did happen. I can't afford that. I am sure these things are going through the minds of those HG avid parents. Condolences. |
I know exactly how you feel. I feel like this is too young as a general rule. _________________ Wills Wing U2 160
"Better to have a shorter life that is full of what you enjoy doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way." - Alan Watts
http://vimeo.com/27531088# |
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mvent2009

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 88 Location: Mérida, Venezuela
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Bad news... really sad  _________________ UP Spyder,
Phoenix Lazor,
Sensor 510
Magic IV
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Paul H 2 thumbs up


Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 2183 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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As sad as that news is, the same could happen to any kid taking part in any of the many hazardous sports and activities that so many are involved in. It's a tough call for any parent. _________________ Paul H
U2 160 USHPA # 51178 KE7VOG
H4, FL, AT, PL, FSL, RLF, TUR, X-C, CL, AWCL, 360, HA,
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klh 3 thumbs up


Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 330 Location: San Bernardino, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| This is a damn shame and a tragic loss. I hope more information about the cause(s) makes it onto the intermet so we can learn from it. |
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knumbknuts 3 thumbs up


Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 5004 Location: Carlsbad, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I watched my daughter ride horses today knowing the fatality stats are about the same between the sports (30-40 per 100,000 participants per year). She was in a for-fun contest with other girls, aged 6-12.
I watched after having read this article, thinking... "what do I do about this? Do I let her get into this before she's 18?" |
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Cloudhopper 3 thumbs up


Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 430 Location: Belmont, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Many have replied that 16 is too young to participate in HG. While there may be legal issues with teaching those under 18, I don't believe that our young should be prohibited from flying on principle, provided they can understand the seriousness of the activity and the consequences of their decisions and actions.
There are many (perhaps most) that won't be able to do this at 16, but there are certainly some who can. I've been flying HG's since I was 13, and was flying airplanes (not PIC) long before that. It has had a huge positive impact on my life, and it might not have worked out so well had I not had the opportunity to start so young.
Driving an automobile, flying a private airplane or glider, riding horses, bmx bikes, skate boards, surfing, football: These all take judgement and have elements of risk comparable to learning to HG. These pilots (like any beginner) should be carefully supervised by an instructor, and should perhaps be viewed somewhat more cautiously, as it is generally believed that at this age, mortality is not fully grasped.
However there are so many really exceptionally gifted teenage athletes in so many sports that require comparable dedication and possess similar potential for injury or death. To deny these young potential pilots the opportunity to begin flying as soon as they are emotionally mature enough does them and our sport a disservice.
Yes... 16 s far too young to die, and as the father of a teenage daughter, I can hardly imagine what this young woman's parents must be going through. My heart goes out to them, and to all those of the Derbyshire community who share in this tragic loss. |
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relate2 3 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 3391 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| knumbknuts wrote: |
I watched my daughter ride horses today knowing the fatality stats are about the same between the sports (30-40 per 100,000 participants per year). She was in a for-fun contest with other girls, aged 6-12.
I watched after having read this article, thinking... "what do I do about this? Do I let her get into this before she's 18?" |
I will never ride a horse again after I came within inches of one falling on top of me. I prefer if I crash it is because of something I do, not because some animal doesn't know what it is doing or get scared by a stick.
Re the poor girl killed in the hang glider I saw one report that said she had been flying since 14. _________________ Sonic 165
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adi 3 thumbs up

Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 690 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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just found out who this was. I know her father well from the airpark and the hills.. and lois was always there too. She's been flying PG's since she was 14 , and was a natural. She recently started to learn aerotow HG....
This is such a shame for everyone, tragic. Heart goes out to Mark and his family.. _________________ The best 'thermals' are to be found over poorly maintained helium factories. |
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gasdive 2 thumbs up


Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 1161 Location: port macquarie australia
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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I actually encouraged my daughter to ride horses from about 8. It's given a purpose to her life that I think has really enriched her. She's been trying to get into Vet school but at 10 they won't take her (yet). She knows where she's going and how to get there.
I was doing deep (below 40m) decompression dives with my 12 year old brother when I was 14.
If she wanted to HG (she doesn't) I'd support her just the way my Mum supported me. Yes she might die. That would make me sad. Sad enough that I probably couldn't go on. But her life is hers to live. At that age she should be deciding things based on what suits her, not how it would effect others if she died. Time enough for that later.
=:) _________________ Jason Rogers,
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http://slow-cook.blogspot.com
http://thingsineverunderstood.blogspot.com/
Lock a diver in an empty room for an hour with three ball bearings. On your return, one will be lost, one will be broken and one will be stolen. |
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bisleybob 3 thumbs up


Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 780 Location: east coast, England, UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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gutted very sad _________________ fly2 tandem (aerowtow training)
falcon 2 and 3 195
aeros Target 16
wills wing eagle 180
Airwave Sportster (L)158
Other favourites flown but not owened
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