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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Just Got the USHPA Propaganda Letter (Region 3 RD Recall) Reply with quote #1   
I don't know just how to reply to HQ in a way that will get through their thick heads. The fact that they even spent my money to send a letter about a recall effort against Bob K. shows me just how skewed the thinking is in that office. All couched in legalese and references to SOP, and totally without a signature. Just means NO F#%*#'n BALLS in the whole bunch to me. Quoting Lincoln or Jefferson regarding "government no longer serving the needs of the people" is probably going to elude them, as they continually exhibit a lack of depth or compassion one could reasonably expect from people with some degree of education/culture. Sad little tyrants that they are, only direct pressure upon their illusionary world may suffice in the long run. If revolution was acceptable to Lincoln and Jefferson, it's good enough for this membership. Should the opportunity arise to do some of them a disservice, I may find myself unable to resist the temptation. I doubt that I am alone in this view. In the meantime, Bob K. gets my vote against the recall.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
Lets give them a big loss on the recall,
I want them to hurt.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
The first thing we can do as Region 3 pilots is send in our nomination forms for Bob. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
" I don't know just how to reply to HQ in a way that will get through their thick heads. The fact that they even spent my money to send a letter about a recall effort against Bob K. shows me just how skewed the thinking is in that office. "

Region 3 pilots are resposible for the letter and recall not USHPA. The office is responding to the members not directing them. Even if you think USHPA has problems in the office you can't blame them for all the problems in Region 3.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
Exactly. Now the region 3 pilots need to not waste any time blaming the USHPA and get busy voting against the recall.

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" I don't know just how to reply to HQ in a way that will get through their thick heads. The fact that they even spent my money to send a letter about a recall effort against Bob K. shows me just how skewed the thinking is in that office. "

Region 3 pilots are resposible for the letter and recall not USHPA. The office is responding to the members not directing them. Even if you think USHPA has problems in the office you can't blame them for all the problems in Region 3.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #6   
Well, the USHPA EC's professionalism toward Bob has been questionable, but this was brought on by paraglider pilots in San Diego (and a few hang pilots) who just don't like Bob and have been pursuing this since he got elected.

The best way to stick it to them is to make sure your Region 3 friends vote down the recall.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #7   
The only good thing about this whole issue is that it has shown that the USHPA does have to act in accordance with the SOP's. All it takes is the effort of enough concerned members. Definately something to remember when real issues are involved instead of this crap spewed out by the whining bunch of PG's who started the mess.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
I think this might actually create more interest in Region 3 politics and back fire on the" Recall Bob GOONS"! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: .... Reply with quote #9   
Allright region 3. Get off your collective behinds and nip this in the bud. Show the home office who is in control. mosh let them know that they are owned .
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
I whole-heartedly support the man who is a cross between Socrates and a Pit Bull with a logical mind as sharp as a 10pc set of Ginsu Knives!

Thanks Bob for:

WELCOMING me
TEACHING me
FIGHTING for EQUAL RIGHTS (I didn't say HG)
REPRESENTING me

Passionate + Dedicated = Bob

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #11   
What is going on? did they get the signatures to force a recall vote, or are they sending out letters trying to get signatures to force the vote?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #12   
Erik Boehm wrote:
What is going on? did they get the signatures to force a recall vote, or are they sending out letters trying to get signatures to force the vote?


Erik, the letter says there is a recall campaign in progress and to submit nominations for a replacement should Bob be recalled. And it is possible to nominate Bob thumbsup

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #13   
Would someone mind posing the letter?
I'm not Region 3, but I'm interested in watching the drama
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #14   
Sky-pilot: So they are soliciting nominations, due to the possibility he may be recalled?

I guess Bill H. will have to accept his nomination soon, and soon he won't have the "I'm not a candidate, leave me alone" excuse to hide behind.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:56 am    Post subject: Recall letter Reply with quote #15   
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #16   
WAIT WAIT WAAAAAAIT a sec....

If you read the letter it clearly shows they DO NOT currently have enough signatures to initiate a recall vote.

Now the question is, is it part of the USHPA SOP's to send a letter out notifying everyone about the need for more signatures to make a recall vote happen???

Because if its not.... oh man....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #17   
And so it begins..................... Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #18   
sg wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAAAAAAIT a sec....

If you read the letter it clearly shows they DO NOT currently have enough signatures to initiate a recall vote.

Now the question is, is it part of the USHPA SOP's to send a letter out notifying everyone about the need for more signatures to make a recall vote happen???

Because if its not.... oh man....


Where does it say that?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #19   
I may have misread..... I thought it implied it.

It says "There has been a recall campaigned initiated...."
And I thought, so what? In other words, you dont have enough sigs...

But then it said.... "The executive committee has set a special election..."
So I assume the election WILL take place, BECAUSE they got enough signatures. Is that right?

Well.... id like to see the signature list then. I have trust issues Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #20   
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If revolution was acceptable to Lincoln


Well, unless I'm grossly misinformed, President Lincoln squashed a revolt.

Not that that's in any way relevant to this issue.

Regarding the letter, it refers to a slated recall election. That would imply the petitioners satisfied all their requirements. When it says "if" he is recalled, it refers to the recall election (actually a de-election,) not to the petition for recall.

The nominees are solicited for an election IF the recall election succeeds. You can't unseat an RD armed only with a petition full of signatures.
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