made a change on my harness - Hang Gliding Org - Worlds largest Hang Gliding community, discover Hang Gliding

Search

  • Sorry...You must register to activate searching









Post new topic   Reply to topic    Hang Gliding Org Forum Index -> Hang gliding general->made a change on my harness
BURY this topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Wagner24314
1 thumbs up
1 thumbs up


Joined: 09 May 2007
Posts: 2045
Location: Yankton SD

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: made a change on my harness Reply with quote #1   
i went a bit far negitive in this video and have since shortend the pitch line. so in max head down i dont go as far thumbsup


Link

_________________
"Cocky Bastard". Never land on your face it hurts

H3 AT, PL,FL
Sport 2 brothers wing, LaMouette Topless 1 flys awsome and Airborne C4 13.5


Last edited by Wagner24314 on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:16 am; edited 1 time in total
Send private message  Rate this post
noman3
1 thumbs up
1 thumbs up


Joined: 09 Jan 2009
Posts: 4626

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #2   
i just added some padding on the foot rest in my harness to bring my cg forward and it works great!.I did some upside down wing overs to see if my harness would swing heads up and it did not.Who would of guessed i would have more control in the maneuvers,duh.My harness swinging heads up in the middle of a maneuver really caused problems.Now i have much more control through out the maneuvers . Shocked

Dam wag u are to heads down in that thing but i might be wrong. Shocked
Send private message  Rating: 3 thumbs up
relate2
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Jul 2007
Posts: 3391
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #3   
I have a knot in my line to stop me accidentally going too far head down. You have to be careful at take off and if the line has slipped and you go down to the base bar you could end up that far head down that your head ends up below the base bar.
_________________
Sonic 165
Lightsport 3
Malibu 188
My youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2#p/u
Send private message  Rate this post
CHassan
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Posts: 4593
Location: Ohio

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #4   
I get pulled below the bar on scooter tows, at the very top of the tow. Mr. Green Once my knots slipped and in freeflight my head was about 8" below the bar.......That was fun. Rolling Eyes
_________________
Airborne Climax 14 (C1)
WW U2
H3
AT, FL,ST, RLF, TUR.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. … Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the difficulties. ~~~Douglas Adams
Send private message Blog  Rate this post
Dawson
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 25 Jun 2008
Posts: 297
Location: Lake Macquarie, Oz

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #5   
On my second, or maybe it was third flight in my new harness ( Moyes Contour ) I had removed the knot, and didn't notice just how head-down I was when I did my hang check, probably because I didn't put my feet in and get the slider to go all the way back.

Anyhow, I launched, cleared the hill, then went prone. As soon as I went prone my head was below the bar, and I was stretching back up above to hold on to the bar. I immediately tried to pull the angle-o-dangle rope, but couldn't get it to pull my head up.

One of the guys in the Moyes factory had told me to just pull it striaght forward, so striaght through the jam cleat. I tried this, but pull as hard as I could, it wouldn't move. I tried pushing it back towards my hips, so out of the jam cleat, still nothing. All the while, trying to fly the glider, and not get too far out of the narrow lift band, but also not get too close to the hill that I was now below launch height.

I made about 3 passes in front of the hill all the time my head was not feeling good, being so low compared to my body, like all the blood was trying to drain down into my head. I figured if I rocked back to hang, I could maybe then pull on the cord, but because I was SOO head down, when I pulled up on the bar, I pushed out too much, and mushed the glider out of the lift band, and then when the bar came back in, I zoomed down and though, that's it, I'm landing, even if it means carrying back up ( as it does at this site if you don't land half way down where you can re-launch when the wind is right.

I carried back up, all buggered, so thought better of re-flying that day.

Wag, when I first saw how head-down you went in your harness, I got worried, but that harness is like my old harness, and it looks easy as pie to rock back up with just the rope, so you should be ok, but please be careful, and don't go TOO head down.

I've put my kont back in, and you might want to do something similar if your harness allows. Start by putting the knot somewhere conservative, then launch with your head higher than where the knot is, and rock down to it. If all's ok, move the knot an inch further before your next flight, and repeat.

Dawson

_________________
Delta Bronze
Delta Silver
Aerotow (HG)
Ground Tow (HG)
VHF Radio Operations
Pilot Certificate (HG) Advanced
Safety Officer (HG)
Airborne Sting 2XC 175
Send private message  Rate this post
red
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 2734
Location: Utah, USA . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sol III

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: made a change on my harness Reply with quote #6   
Wag,

You should have one more rope on that harness, which is the shoulder stop-rope.

The shoulder stop-rope runs from the right shoulder, up through the carabiner, and then to the left shoulder. You
adjust this rope to allow your body to go NO FURTHER head-down than you would ever want to be, in flight. Yes, each
shoulder pick-up point should have two ropes attached, there.

This shoulder stop-rope is also an in-flight comfort adjustment, if you set it at the ideal flying angle (to suit yourself). Then,
pulling yourself head-down further will put more pressure on your shoulders, relaxing the armpit pressure. Raising your
chest, then relaxing, will put less weight on the shoulders, and more on the chest/armpit lines. (You would be slightly
head-up then, but it's okay to be comfortable.) This extra comfort adjustment will extend your flying times.

Do NOT depend on knots or cleats to prevent an extreme head-down position, in flight. Use a separate shoulder stop-rope.

_________________
Cheers,
........Red.........................
Pssst! New pilot? Free advice, maybe worth the price,
http://www.xmission.com/~red/
H4, Moyes X2, Falcon Tandem, HES Tracer, Quantum
Send private message  Rate this post
CRV
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 961

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: To each... Reply with quote #7   
On my Z5 harness I have permanently fixed my pitch adjustment at the cleat and removed the velcro pull tab...I have no problem getting upright in that harness with the pitch control permanently set during my landings.

For me, this simply removes one more item to fuss with while flying... Cool
Send private message  Rate this post
Wagner24314
1 thumbs up
1 thumbs up


Joined: 09 May 2007
Posts: 2045
Location: Yankton SD

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #8   
really getting it ready for wallaby. i figure i dont want a rotor at this point. i wanted to make what i have as clean as possible.
ill be chase mike barber around this spring i hope and i want to be able to keep up as much as possible. surrender

_________________
"Cocky Bastard". Never land on your face it hurts

H3 AT, PL,FL
Sport 2 brothers wing, LaMouette Topless 1 flys awsome and Airborne C4 13.5
Send private message  Rate this post
Wonder Boy
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 30 Jan 2008
Posts: 1270
Location: Spokane WA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #9   
This is from my Rotor manual:

Single Suspension
There should be a line that goes from the carabiner to the front of the harness to limit the travel of the harness
in the head down direction. The harness should be adjusted to go about
15 degrees head down, and no further.
There have been a number of avoidable face and neck injuries because there was no limit to how far the harness
could pitch head down.


Hope that helps,
Mike

_________________
Everyone who lives dies, yet not everyone who dies, has lived.
We take these risks not to escape life, but to prevent life escaping us.



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CenterOFLIFT/
Send private message  Rate this post
Wagner24314
1 thumbs up
1 thumbs up


Joined: 09 May 2007
Posts: 2045
Location: Yankton SD

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote #10   
ill limit it to 14 degrees thanks
_________________
"Cocky Bastard". Never land on your face it hurts

H3 AT, PL,FL
Sport 2 brothers wing, LaMouette Topless 1 flys awsome and Airborne C4 13.5
Send private message  Rate this post
red
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 2734
Location: Utah, USA . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sol III

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: made a change on my harness Reply with quote #11   
Campers,


Media BLOCKED

Please REGISTER
and log in to see this content

_________________
Cheers,
........Red.........................
Pssst! New pilot? Free advice, maybe worth the price,
http://www.xmission.com/~red/
H4, Moyes X2, Falcon Tandem, HES Tracer, Quantum
Send private message  Rate this post
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Hang Gliding Org Forum Index -> Hang gliding general
 
All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1


 
Jump to:  


(c) HangGliding.org All rights reserved. Based on PhpBB